3.5-4hp Aux wanted

Nos4r2 · 05 January 2008, 19:21

Anyone got anything? Up to about 200 quid. Would like a Yam if possible with an external tank so I can run from my main tanks-but I can adapt anything to fuel off the main tanks if it's the right motor. Would be VERY interested in a 3.5hp Tohatsu too.

ian parkes · 05 January 2008, 19:50

Small used motors seem to fetching silly prices . people seem to be asking over half new price for 10 yr old plus motors .

Nos4r2 · 05 January 2008, 19:57

It's getting crazy isn't it. The annoying thing is I've got 2 outboards here I could use as an aux at a push-but when I fit the bracket it needs to be fitted specifically for the outboard used as I'm a bit short on space and what I've got here isn't ideal-5hp aircooled Yam p95 (too heavy) and a Seagull 40+ (tilt 'lock' not secure enough for a rib and I don't like the idea of having to carry an extra can or premix when I'm afloat).

MikeCC · 06 January 2008, 11:19

Heard there's a bloke in Norfolk always seems to have plenty in stock.

Pete7 · 06 January 2008, 18:00

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Heard there's a bloke in Norfolk always seems to have plenty in stock.

I think Matt would rather swim

Sorry Matt, keeping hold of my little 3.5hp Johnson as they get rare, but Lee Fairweather had a good selection of little engines in the other day, might be worth a shout.

Pete

Limey Linda · 06 January 2008, 18:18

Hi Nos
I am going through the same project as you but with at least a 6 hp. 4 stroker. How do you plan to solve the problem of the engine bouncing when tilted. All the tilt locks seem very flimsy and are not positive locks. I have been looking at the sprung loaded/lever operated aux. mounts that have about 12 inches of vert. travel that will allow the aux. to be left down. Do you have any experience with these? they are a litle pricey.

Nos4r2 · 06 January 2008, 18:39

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I think Matt would rather swim

Sorry Matt, keeping hold of my little 3.5hp Johnson as they get rare, but Lee Fairweather had a good selection of little engines in the other day, might be worth a shout.

Pete

S'all right, I've just bought your old 2.2 Suzuki instead

It's a bit limited for space on the 5.4 and I didn't have as much space as I thought when I measured up. I'll just have to drop the anchor and wait for the tide if the main engine plays up. Not an ideal situation but still better than a kick in the teeth.

The aux mounts vary enormously in quality. I've had 3 or 4 different makes and the best ones I've come across were Italian, made from 1.6mm stainless and spring/lever operated. A bit like this but with a wooden pad. I just used the friction screw and a big bungee to hold the engine in place and never had a problem with movement.

Limey Linda · 06 January 2008, 18:53

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The aux mounts vary enormously in quality. I've had 3 or 4 different makes and the best ones I've come across were Italian, made from 1.6mm stainless and spring/lever operated. A bit like this but with a wooden pad. I just used the friction screw and a big bungee to hold the engine in place and never had a problem with movement.

Thanks Nos
Will start looking for one like that over here. So far I have only found ones with torsion springs which I do not like.

Pete7 · 06 January 2008, 19:56

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S'all right, I've just bought your old 2.2 Suzuki instead

It's a bit limited for space on the 5.4 and I didn't have as much space as I thought when I measured up. I'll just have to drop the anchor and wait for the tide if the main engine plays up. Not an ideal situation but still better than a kick in the teeth.

Oh good, I think we might have the manual on the yacht which it came from so I will have a good look next time we are on board. She was only used as a tender outboard and John normally berthed in marinas so could be very low use. Certainly started easily enough.

Pete

Nos4r2 · 06 January 2008, 21:43

That'd be handy-cheers Pete!

ian parkes · 06 January 2008, 23:07

Mat well done you found one . That little suzuki seems rarer than rocking horse droppings now , yet 2 years ago they were for sale everywhere at discount . The throttle lever is better than a twistgrip for aux use I reckon.

Iam sure its the same as the merc/mariner/tohatsu would be great to know it definatly is and if it can be derestricted as mentioned earlier making it a 3.2.
I also wonder if a 4 or more blade prop is available like some sail drives have

Nos4r2 · 07 January 2008, 00:41

I don't think it is-it's physically smaller for a start. I will however have a good look for restrictions as it'd be a bit more useful at 3.3hp.

ian parkes · 07 January 2008, 20:09

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I don't think it is-it's physically smaller for a start. I will however have a good look for restrictions as it'd be a bit more useful at 3.3hp.

Thats interesting . I used to use a suzuki 2.2 on my mums tender to her boat and just thought it looked the same as the mariner . I have never seen them side by side .

ADS · 03 February 2008, 13:40

I had a Suzuki 2.2 a couple of years ago it was mint and very low hours Sold it for £125

It did come with another boat though. Was much pokier and more reliable than the 2hp Honda that replaced it, only annoying thing was that it was difficult to get the cover off. The 2hp Honda incidently was rubbish and has now been replaced with a Yamaha Malta (heavy and gutless!).

samt · 03 February 2008, 15:42

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I had a Suzuki 2.2 a couple of years ago it was mint and very low hours Sold it for £125

It did come with another boat though. Was much pokier and more reliable than the 2hp Honda that replaced it, only annoying thing was that it was difficult to get the cover off. The 2hp Honda incidently was rubbish and has now been replaced with a Yamaha Malta (heavy and gutless!).

ADS, Can you get the Malta to fit on your seariders' transom?

ADS · 04 February 2008, 18:38

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ADS, Can you get the Malta to fit on your seariders' transom?

I ve never tried, all of the above have been used on a tender for my parents boat. The Searider has a 2hp Evinrude aux, I imagine the malta would be too wide what with the tiller arm to fit on there. Nos will confirm I recall he tried a variety of outboards before finding one that would fit.

Nos4r2 · 04 February 2008, 23:00

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I ve never tried, all of the above have been used on a tender for my parents boat. The Searider has a 2hp Evinrude aux, I imagine the malta would be too wide what with the tiller arm to fit on there. Nos will confirm I recall he tried a variety of outboards before finding one that would fit.

If SamT's sr4 doesn't have an A-frame, the malta may fit. It's the A-frame and transom eyes that limited the space on there.The 2hp Evinrude has an advantage over most other engines in that it's only got one transom clamp screw so the clamp is narrow. Even a Seagull transom clamp wouldn't fit.

Before I changed the main engine on the sr4 I had an old blueband mercury on there which was narrower and I managed to get one of these (pic) to fit by trimming the sides of its transom clamp flanges down by 5-10mm.

You'll definitely get the Evinrude on there with the Yam/Mariner 40 on there.

samt · 04 February 2008, 23:27

Thanks for replys. I havn't got an A-frame, but I bolted a couple of U-bolts through the steel transom supports (not original avon supports) these will probably be in the way.

I've got a malta in the shed, hardly used. I'll see if it fits on the transom when I get back to the boat in a couple of weeks. It would be nice if it did fit as its such a good little motor.

Nos4r2 · 05 February 2008, 01:08

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Thanks for replys. I havn't got an A-frame, but I bolted a couple of U-bolts through the steel transom supports (not original avon supports) these will probably be in the way.

I've got a malta in the shed, hardly used. I'll see if it fits on the transom when I get back to the boat in a couple of weeks. It would be nice if it did fit as its such a good little motor.

It's worth trying. Keep it as close as possible to the main engine-you'll notice the off centre weight on the transom.

Just my opinion, but those transom supports don't look strong enough.

samt · 05 February 2008, 12:27

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Just my opinion, but those transom supports don't look strong enough.

I was abit worried about them aswell. They were on the boat when I bought it, but I don't know why original ones were removed. They seem ok for now, but hopefully I'll find a replacment before I start using the boat properly.

They're made of steel, about 8mm thick. I havn't looked at any original ones properly, so don't really know what to compare them to. What are the original avon ones made from?