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19 August 2014, 14:27
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Curious,,, what ruled out the GX1200 ? Size or a missing feature?
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19 August 2014, 14:47
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Originally Posted by henryfreston
I have now raise my budget
Something is telling me it's not worth going second hand on something so vital.
Now the options are;
- Standard Horizon Gx2000 @ £172.80
- Garmin 100i @ £162.95
- Icom IC-M323 @ £167.96
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If I were you I'd try and find the extra tiny bit for SH GX1700E - with the built in GPS for DSC ...
Standard Horizon GX1700E Explorer VHF Radio with GPS - Only £199.95 - Force 4 Chandlery
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19 August 2014, 18:20
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Do you think there is a real advantage over a standard DSC if you already have a GPS?
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19 August 2014, 18:30
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I would imagine where space is limited (which I find is on a SR4, same as the OP)
Having a combined unit helps.?
All suggestions look good Henry, don't think you'll go wrong with any of them. Its all down to budget.
Have a few less beers this Bank Holiday and go out and buy the best you can for the money.
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19 August 2014, 18:32
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Originally Posted by ShinyShoe
Curious,,, what ruled out the GX1200 ? Size or a missing feature?
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Because I have a bigger budget now, so I might as well go for the better model if I can afford it.
If I'm honest I haven't compared the two in terms of features.
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19 August 2014, 18:37
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Originally Posted by Wibs
I would imagine where space is limited (which I find is on a SR4, same as the OP)
Having a combined unit helps.?
All suggestions look good Henry, don't think you'll go wrong with any of them. Its all down to budget.
Have a few less beers this Bank Holiday and go out and buy the best you can for the money.
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He has a Garmin 451s so he won't save any space as the VHF with inbuilt GPS doesn't do plotting...
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19 August 2014, 18:39
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Can never have enough GPS units...
If the 451 fails, then at least he'll have a back up on the VHF.?
Just one possibility.?
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19 August 2014, 18:48
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Wibs & Henry both shop like women... Next they'll be telling us the saved money by getting the more expensive one discounted. Every Boxing Day is the same here... Look I saved £600 in the sales. ... No love look I saved £400 by not going out buying stuff I didn't need...
So Wibs - is £30 worth it for a second GPS. 30 years ago people didn't need GPS to take their boat out. I will be henry has smart phone. That's his resilience...
Henry... At first glance I'm not sure what's different on the 2000. More money <> better.
The 2000 is a downgraded 2100 which doesn't have in built A is. You can connect AIS to it and it will plot it on the matrix. If you need to see AIS targets on the matrix you need to go ashore... Would have thought the garmin could do that....
I'd only be spending an extra £70 if I thought the extra features were worth it. But that's why I bought the Mrs a car with manual windows....
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19 August 2014, 18:49
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I think I'm going to go for the garmin, just so it is more simple having all the same brand electrics throughout.
anybody got anything bad/good to say about the garmin 100i?
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19 August 2014, 18:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinyShoe
So Wibs - is £30 worth it for a second GPS. 30 years ago people didn't need GPS to take their boat out. I will be henry has smart phone. That's his resilience...
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If the OP is going to buy a fixed, and he's going up his budget to buy the best he can....then 'yes' the £30 is worth it for an extra GPS device.
.....certainly NOT my non water proof mobile device that even when it smells water turns itself off.
Garmin is a good option Henry
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19 August 2014, 19:07
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Never seen a garmin in the wild. Only contact has been a few posts with tech issues...
Friend just bought a Toshiba TV, Toshiba DVD, Toshiba sound system... Coz they must all talk to each other..
2 hours later... shiny dya have a lead to connect optical digital to coax digital sound... Doh.
You are gonna get a lead with some wires to connect. At best they will be the same colour as the ones on the garmin to connect to. At worst they won't. Other than the aerial there will be two power wires plus two data wires and possibly a ground data wire if it doesn't use the power ground...
My 4 year old could connect them up...
The challenge is making sure the GPS is transmitting the right sentence. If the navman was get pos data it is..
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19 August 2014, 20:51
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Henry!
Try 'cactus navigation' cheapest on the web for electronics
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19 August 2014, 21:02
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Originally Posted by Deekus
Henry!
Try 'cactus navigation' cheapest on the web for electronics
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19 August 2014, 22:51
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Do you think there is a real advantage over a standard DSC if you already have a GPS?
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I think the only advantage would be dual redundancy if the main GPS unit went t/u. But you could then argue going two of everything "just in case" - where does it end?
I was seriously looking at the GX1700E for that reason but I'm now thinking of an NMEA2K network; so the GX1700E is out as that's NMEA0183 and won't talk to my "NMEA2K only" plotter to plot other boats on it.
Sent from my iPhone using RIB Net
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19 August 2014, 22:52
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Plus one for Cactus Navigation - they seem to be the cheapest around at the mo.
Sent from my iPhone using RIB Net
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19 August 2014, 22:55
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19 August 2014, 23:04
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NMEA in only as far as I know. That's no bad thing but means can't show DSC alert pos on plotter...
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20 August 2014, 00:14
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I've just repaired an icom 503 (pre-DSC).
£100 posted.
30 day guarantee.
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20 August 2014, 00:40
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Originally Posted by Daniel
I've just repaired an icom 503 (pre-DSC).
£100 posted.
30 day guarantee.
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After DSC really and it looks like this vhf if more suited to a large boat (according to icom website).
Thanks anyway though.
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20 August 2014, 00:44
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VHF Radio
Fitted loads to rib consoles but yes no probs we used to do a lot of icom 411 refurbs @ £125 (small DSC model) odd but the supply seams to have dried up this year !
Good radio if you can find one.
To be honest though, with 3 yr guaantee the extra few £££ is well worth it to buy new.
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