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26 October 2010, 23:04
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Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
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A couple more
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26 October 2010, 23:43
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
Join Date: Jun 2005
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26 October 2010, 23:44
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Country: UK - England
Town: Dinard, Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude E-tec 250HO
MMSI: 235 076 114
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Looks absoutely fantastic really like that last pic, great action shot
But the big question....is it a Volvo fuel/water separator?
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27 October 2010, 00:19
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Country: UK - England
Town: Fareham
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Wicked!
Glad it arrived all OK. I'm sure that you'll make a very happy couple
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27 October 2010, 00:33
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Northumberland
Boat name: Dr Doof
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 125hp
MMSI: 235082981
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Very impressive.
Worth the wait.
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27 October 2010, 08:58
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
Join Date: Jun 2002
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Nice boat mate, congrats
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27 October 2010, 12:54
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Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
Boat name: No Boat
Make: No Boat
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Very nice! Should imagine the conditions down your way can get very 'interesting'!!
Good luck with her!
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27 October 2010, 16:57
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: N Wales Chester
Boat name: Mr Smith
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
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Looks really good.
Re the mention of your Humber being smoother possibly, to some extent in a small sea it might be. The destroyer has less chines so cuts through the waves more, but isn't so dry and doesn't get out of the hole as easy as the OP or your new toy.
Enjoy, scenery looks awesome too, v jealous.
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27 October 2010, 18:11
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Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-tec 300 G2
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Originally Posted by BogMonster
I happen to have a couple of bottles of Ultra HPF under the bench in my garage which I forgot to give away with the old boat
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I think the oil for the E-tec is now HPF-XR, not sure if you can use the older stuff (don't see why not though).
Oh and CONGRATULATIONS, Nice Rib !!!
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27 October 2010, 18:29
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-tec 300 G2
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Originally Posted by Mollers
Etecs over-oil for the 10hrs of 'run-in'.
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They add extra oil for the first 2 hours of running over 2000 RPMs. which for the average user is about 4-5 hours of total running time
Now where's my anorak...
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27 October 2010, 19:04
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL
Re the mention of your Humber being smoother possibly, to some extent in a small sea it might be. The destroyer has less chines so cuts through the waves more, but isn't so dry and doesn't get out of the hole as easy as the OP or your new toy.
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What I really noticed (bit unscientific) is going across 2-3ft waves it snap rolled a lot more from side to side than I think the Humber used to, as if the chines on the "uphill" side of the wave were digging in and lifting that side of the boat, which I suppose they would. Particularly as you crossed the crest of the wave it could snap quite sharply from leaning one way to the other, which gave me a fright a couple of times till I stopped being silly with the throttle I think the non-chined Destroyer hull was more of a wallow than a sharp motion.
Yes - without a doubt it is much drier than the Destroyer, I hadn't really thought of it while I was out but there was enough wind yesterday that I would have got bloody soaked in the Destroyer and apart from a couple of very small facefuls it stayed dry on board
Hammering head into the same waves, much better, and going with the waves, equally seemed to be much better. Hole shot - mmm it was sort of rroooaoaAARRR 30 knots stupid grin
Today has been a day of fettling and sorting out a few issues like fitting the aux outboard which was not straightforward, but I'll do a separate post on that in the engines forum later as I want some views on what I am going to do.
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20 November 2010, 21:18
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Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
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Some from today - good stiff north easterly so I suited up and went out into the open sea (fetch: about 5000 miles) to check out the rough water handling - very impressed - pretty dry and as comfortable as could be expected slamming into a head sea, though I did think it seemed more inclined than the Humber to stuff in a following sea, could be just the weight of the console and much bigger fuel tank being well forwards but had water over the bow tube a couple of times dropping into a hole at 18-20kts.
I went in behind a local island wildlife reserve called Kidney Island and had an "interesting" exit - a couple of very big waves, on the biggest one I had the whole boat and the prop out of the water and I was only doing about 8 knots we just went up and up and then ooo we seem to have air, so can now confirm an Osprey flies quite well and lands gracefully seems well balanced anyway where the Humber would have been an "Ooo f" moment
The other half was wandering around with camera in hand when I came back in so got some more shots which are attached, it was fairly calm in the harbour though.
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20 November 2010, 21:23
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Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
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...and some of the wildlife at the end of it
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21 November 2010, 01:37
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
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What's the distance between the centre of your front seat cushion and the rear face of the anchor locker, where it meets the deck?
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21 November 2010, 02:09
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Town: Fareham
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I can't say that I've experienced this "Snap roll" off the crest of any wave with mine. Obviously mine is 400mm longer than yours but is still the same hull design 400mm forward of the transom.
My layout is different than yours however (Double Console and side by side seating along with a 200L fuel tank), which might well indicate a weight balance issue. Try a couple of sand bags in different places next time you go out, might well help you understand whats going on.
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21 November 2010, 11:25
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Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
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Not sure about the seat cushion but I know the front of the dive console is 500mm from the anchor locker.
The forward placing was deliberate as I had a hell of a fright with the Humber a few years ago when I nearly flipped it over backwards going a bit too fast into a strong headwind so I figured that keeping my (ahem) not inconsiderable mass well forwards would keep the nose down, which is exactly what it did yesterday. Also when you've got a good breeze on the beam (good breezes being the norm down here), the further back you sit, the wetter you get, as the Mrs used to keep telling me with a double console I would be sitting more or less where the second seat is positioned.
Oddly it seemed much less sensitive to the rolling on the last two times I was out so it may be related to a particular combination of trim and sea conditions. Plus, I may have slowed down a bit
Part of the issue is that the Osprey seats are completely flat and with a flotation suit on you slide around a lot on the seat in rough water as there's no friction at all between the seat and the suit. The Humber seat was sort of buttock-shaped and also the material was grippy (effect of years of UV I think) so was more secure. I'm thinking of covering mine with an outer layer of some of that soft rubber grip-mat as an experiment and maybe getting a S/S Jesus handle made up for the console.
Still absolutely loving it only f-up was my trailer choice, I should have stuck with Roy's standard roller trailer. It'll work OK once I have modified it, but it doesn't at the moment.
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21 November 2010, 11:30
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
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Sounds like there's too much weight forward. On the rare occasions when someone's travelled on the suicide seat on mine, I've found the balance to be awful.
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21 November 2010, 11:48
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Town: Fareham
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BogMonster
Part of the issue is that the Osprey seats are completely flat and with a flotation suit on you slide around a lot on the seat in rough water as there's no friction at all between the seat and the suit. The Humber seat was sort of buttock-shaped and also the material was grippy (effect of years of UV I think) so was more secure. I'm thinking of covering mine with an outer layer of some of that soft rubber grip-mat as an experiment and maybe getting a S/S Jesus handle made up for the console.
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I hardly ever sit down on mine and during rough weather I ride her "Jockey" style, wedging my fat arse into the backrest wings for added support. Could this not be a technique you could use?
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21 November 2010, 11:52
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
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Originally Posted by Hightower
I hardly ever sit down on mine and during rough weather I ride her "Jockey" style, wedging my fat arse into the backrest wings for added support. Could this not be a technique you could use?
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I do that as well but actually when it gets really rough I prefer to sit down with one foot wedged under each tube - not a very flattering pose but it works
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