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27 August 2012, 15:04
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Oooooh! Poor Steve!
Warranty job, that...
Annoying when you picked the engine everyone recommended and it falls off. I'm sure BRP will step up to the mark on this one.
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27 August 2012, 20:15
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Jesus, that's annoying. So sorry for Steve, you spend all that money, that shouldn't happen in a mass produced item. Hardly a big rib being thrashed.
Any chance it's happened from being towed so far? Did it bounce all the way to Scotland and weaken it? Was it on a chock? I dont know, just thinking how it could happen.
Is it just my perception or has nearly every etec owner on here had problems? All those I know have had a variety of problems.
David Griffiths, kerny, 1978searider, rocknrolla. All have had their fair share on new engines.
Yet I have heard of no problems from Suzuki 4S owners. Credit where credit's due.
Merc/mariner optis were awful when first released in 2002 ish but problems seem to have been ironed out. Are etec in the same position?
Who knows. Just hope this is sorted for you Steve.
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27 August 2012, 21:18
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Is it just my perception or has nearly every etec owner on here had problems? All those I know have had a variety of problems.
David Griffiths, kerny, 1978searider, rocknrolla. All have had their fair share on new engines.
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Hmmm! not wishing to hijack the thread, I've just blown an EMM, bye bye a grand Show me an engine guaranteed not to break for 10 years & I'll buy 2
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27 August 2012, 21:20
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No I agree Dave, all are susceptible, but evilrude don't seem to be fairing too well on the first 3-5! Never mind ten.
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27 August 2012, 22:54
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Hmmm! not wishing to hijack the thread, I've just blown an EMM, bye bye a grand Show me an engine guaranteed not to break for 10 years & I'll buy 2
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My Yamaha 4 - 50 HP 1998 - not issue till 2 weeks ago! so I guess your next one will be s yamaha!
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28 August 2012, 06:25
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My Yamaha 4 - 50 HP 1998 - not issue till 2 weeks ago! so I guess your next one will be s yamaha!
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But did they guarantee it not to break when you bought it in '98? I'm sure that there are examples of all makes out there that have run faultlessly for years, including Evinrudes. My point was, if I could walk into a shop & be offerred an engine guaranteed not to fail for 10 years, I'd buy it. But we all know that ain't going to happen
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28 August 2012, 07:58
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But did they guarantee it not to break when you bought it in '98? I'm sure that there are examples of all makes out there that have run faultlessly for years, including Evinrudes. My point was, if I could walk into a shop & be offerred an engine guaranteed not to fail for 10 years, I'd buy it. But we all know that ain't going to happen
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I think Honda offer the longest with a 6 yr warranty. Not sure if anyone offers and extended warranty for a premium fee? But I'd say its quite possible for someone to offer that out to 10 yrs old subject to you being willing to pay a significant premium over the 'typical' 3yr warranty.
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28 August 2012, 09:38
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I think Honda offer the longest with a 6 yr warranty. Not sure if anyone offers and extended warranty for a premium fee? But I'd say its quite possible for someone to offer that out to 10 yrs old subject to you being willing to pay a significant premium over the 'typical' 3yr warranty.
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You're missing the point Poly, warranty & not breaking are different kettles of fish.
Before we go any further, do you want to split this into a separate thread in the engine forum?
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28 August 2012, 13:28
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As reluctant as I am to admit it, I too have had etec 'issues'. However, I don't think that mine was typical. The gearbox casing cracked, just where the exhaust runs inside it. "Not seen one like that before"
BRP were OK about it, and replaced the casing under warranty.
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You're missing the point Poly, warranty & not breaking are different kettles of fish.
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I suspected that might be part of your point; but it is of course impossible to make any meaningful guarantee that something won't break - but you can warrant that if something goes wrong you will fix it. Would you buy an engine that came with a 10 yr warranty, had a reputation for unbeaten reliability and was generally considered to be indestructible IF it weighed 20% more than its competitors, cost twice as much and had higher ongoing servicing costs? Or were you wanting the moon on a stick - a lightweight, low cost, ultrareliable engine with low running costs?
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If its going to turn into a discussion I'll split it out.
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Or were you wanting the moon on a stick - a lightweight, low cost, ultrareliable engine with low running costs?
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Do I queue here?
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28 August 2012, 20:29
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Thats it another etec out of the water.... Mr Jingles is over heating, we could be down to 2 ribs it's left to the Suzuki,s on Domino and Raptor... let's hope nothing else goes wrong
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28 August 2012, 20:47
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Thats it another etec out of the water.... Mr Jingles is over heating, we could be down to 2 ribs it's left to the Suzuki,s on Domino and Raptor... let's hope nothing else goes wrong
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Hopefully I'll get it sorted tomorrow
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28 August 2012, 21:02
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Had a closer look at the Etec bracket today & found this flaw in the cast it look like a warranty job
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Hope u get sorted Andy. We're u out today after all? What's your plans for tomoro? Listen you can't let theses Suzi boys rule!
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Listen you can't let theses Suzi boys rule!
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Forgotten your session with the Suzi-twins already then?
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Never that will be etched in my memory for a long time.
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28 August 2012, 21:46
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Hope u get sorted Andy. We're u out today after all? What's your plans for tomoro? Listen you can't let theses Suzi boys rule!
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hopefully we'll get out tomorrow once I've sorted mr jingles, we are looking forward to meeting up tomorrow night mate , them suzi boys will never rule mate
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28 August 2012, 21:59
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Had a closer look at the Etec bracket today & found this flaw in the cast it look like a warranty job
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Fingers crossed this is a straight forward warranty claim. Nothing worse, especially when you're away from home, etc.
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hopefully we'll get out tomorrow once I've sorted mr jingles, we are looking forward to meeting up tomorrow night mate , them suzi boys will never rule mate
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Have you cleaned out the midge filter it could be causing the engine to overheat, lol.
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