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Old 24 June 2003, 12:09   #1
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Old 24 June 2003, 12:15   #2
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Old 24 June 2003, 12:50   #3
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No life jackets? No helmets? No drysuits?

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Old 24 June 2003, 12:58   #4
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And a very dirty bottom !!

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Old 24 June 2003, 13:02   #5
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Nice shots guys and very impressive BUT I would have thought that wearing lifejackets would only enhance the pictures.
What we can see are two guys acting irresponsibly.

Wearing a lifejacket anywhere on the water is a MUST

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Old 24 June 2003, 13:32   #6
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Sunnies

Hey Andre they are obviously very cool dudes as both are wearing sun glasses on what looks like an overcast day, maybe they are to keep the spray from there eyes or maybe they are even flying glasses.



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Old 24 June 2003, 14:04   #7
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Hey nice photo guys.

Life jackets?? Hmmmmmmm, try to ware one when you are under 38 deg of heat and then tell me what you think (if you survive the heat exhaustion)
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I would advocate the immediate removal of this picture because it could be seen as encouraging bad practice and influence some people who are not able to make their own minds up as to what is acceptable on a board like this;

John you might also consider requiring a certificate from anyone who posts a picture that -

they are over 18 years old

they know the difference between fun and danger

they carry lifejackets flares anchors vhf gps dvd hgv.........


I know that (even as a lawyer who knows about regulation), looking at that picture might tempt me!
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Old 24 June 2003, 14:32   #9
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I think the pic is COOL!!
Do we have any votes on that??
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Agree

Have to agree with Phil, sorry Manos on this occasion your completely wrong, one should wear a life jacket or buoyancy aid at all times and especially when pulling off stunts like this, being too hot is not an excuse, what happens if the passengers thrown off the back and brains himself on the A frame as he goes through, the boats going so fast that the driver might not notice the accident for bit, by the time he notices and gets back the face down casualty may be past saving!
Besides this the wind chill at 40-50 knots would chill anyone down enough that a slim fitting life jacket wont matter much to heat retention.

Also have to presume as Niels is in Holland and presumably he's playing in the North Sea with this boat that although the air temp may be nice and warm the sea certainly is not. Not all of us are as lucky as you to live in a very warm climate, most of us have to wear protective clothing most of the year or if nothing else carry it as an emergency, if you ever come on my boat (and your most welcome anytime mate) i'll insist on your wearing of a life jacket and most good skippers would do the same, Hey it might even go with those swimming trunks



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Old 24 June 2003, 14:42   #11
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Bildge Rat and Phil, I also agree that life jackets should be worn but this is just a photo for fun why one should make an issue out of it??

Just a quetion. Is it compulsory to wear a life jacket on a boat? in the UK or in Holland?

If is not what is all the fuss about??
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Hey nice photo guys.

Life jackets?? Hmmmmmmm, try to ware one when you are under 38 deg of heat and then tell me what you think (if you survive the heat exhaustion)
Manos,

Nothing wrong in wearing an inflatable jacket even in 38 degrees of heat. I would even wear a T-shirt under the lifejacket not to get too much tan and a hat to protect my head.

The key word is SAFETY but not many as we have seen understand that.

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Old 24 June 2003, 15:18   #13
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Hi Andre, Alway safety should be on ones mind when they are out and about with anything. Being a car, bike, boat, plane or even when they walk.
However, all should be done with moderation. This is the point I am trying to make
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Yeah but not wearing lifejackets isn't safety in moderation no matter how you look at it.

They might look cool on the boat, but if something had happened it wouldn't have looked quite as good would it?

Although if they had ended up in the water, they would have been "cool" in the tshirts and shorts, bloody cool.

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Old 24 June 2003, 15:59   #15
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It is the skippers choice!!!!!!!

I insist the everyone on my boat wares one but it is the skippers choice. Their are far more dangerous things go on, ie skippers drinking, towing water-skiers over dive sites, racing boats directly behind them ect. I don't do any of these things but then I ware a life jacket. My point is that we live ina nanny state as it is the question is not about safety but about whether more rules should be imposed on water sports. If we do introduce rules Ie min qualification lifejackets ect where does it stop. Speed limits withing a 10 mile radius of the uk, only being allowed out in certain conditions and certain times of the year ect. I have heard all of these suggestions before. but the question is do we want more rules. ( as a PBI I would say yes £££££) :-)
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My post was supposed to be satirical -Im sorry it didn't hit the spot.(dvd hgv?)

In my view theres really no place for PC or web policing in a site like this.

I don't always wear a jacket and I agree that it is the skippers choice.

Theres a great deal of good advice and suggestions on this site but beware you dont disappear up your own rissoles
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...satirical -Im sorry it didn't hit the spot...
Oh it did! I was just preparing a bucket of cold water to throw over manos in another thread
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Upss missed me ............ just ducked LOLOL
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Old 24 June 2003, 21:31   #19
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wow

these photo's were taken not at sea but in a lake.
watertemp 22 degrees celsius.
driving with two other boats.
all safety equipment on board. sunglases for the wind at high speed.
In holland it is not obliged to wear lifejackets, but the must be on board.
speed on photo only 35 knot or so.

sorry guys but i'm very responsible.
and thank you manos(are they jealous or something????)


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Hoi Niels
Hulle verstaan nie?!
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