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06 January 2004, 11:21
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Member
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
Make: MAR.CO
Length: 9m +
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Hope you don't mind putting this photo up on our web site!
NIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE!!!!!
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06 January 2004, 11:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
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I'm with Jon Fuller on this one - having raced in a Phantom 18 with 200 hp (76 mph) as well as my boat with the same horse power (73 mph) I believe the only way to achieve those speeds is to have over 200 horsepower on that hull .
By the way congratulations on winning the race - whatever the speed it sounds like one awesome race!
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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06 January 2004, 12:15
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Member
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
Make: MAR.CO
Length: 9m +
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Cookee I agree with you, Fantoms are quite fast boats also yours is a fast boat too.
However, as Pieter said the red FALCON is a racing hull!! very differently built than the recreational version that I've got.
With my VMax 200 and full load (2 kids, wife, me 15+ stone), about 120-150 ltrs fuel, a-frame, spare engine and 30+ mtr anchor chains, anchors, ropes life jackets, life raft, cool box, water container etc etc on a flat day (similr to the photos I posted previously) the boat does do at WOT 52.3 knots/hr
52.3knots * 1.853km = 96.911 km/hr or
96.911 / 1.6093 = 60.21 miles/hr
all that @ 5600 revs and trim @ 3.5-4
On my own in it same weather conditions, just 20-30 ltrs of fuel and all the other gear except the water container and the cooler it does 57.6 knots/hr or 63.22 miles/hr @ 5900 revs and trim @ 3.5-4
All speeds on the GPS but the electronic speedo showed more or less the same speeds give ot take one knot.
So what Pieter says about speeds is reasonable considering that the boat he is talking about is a racing boat.
As I always said this is a very fast hull!! You should come to Greece and go for a ride in it! May be then you will understand what I mean. However, if you can wait until April 2004 you will have the opportunity to see the 700SRS as well as the 640SR in two Int'l RIB magazines any way
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06 January 2004, 12:19
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Town: Margate / Ramsgate
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Manos i thought you had a Yamaha VMax 150, have you changed it.
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06 January 2004, 12:21
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All very interesting but how is that relevant to a boat with only 150 hp on the back?
All in my humble opinion of course!
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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06 January 2004, 12:22
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Member
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
Make: MAR.CO
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 200Vmax
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NO DANIEL you are mistaken I always had a VMAX200. The racing boat I wanted to get which I didn't due to length restrictions in the UK was to be with a VMax 150
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06 January 2004, 12:23
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Morfa Nefyn, Gwynedd
Boat name: Black Jack
Make: Pro Sport
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki 250hp 4/
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Quote:
Originally posted by Manos
Ian try to write it in Greek then? I think I'm doing quite well considering!
and the Greek version
TA SKAFH FALCON EINAI PANDA NIKITES!!!!
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I was just about to write that
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06 January 2004, 12:24
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Member
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cookee
All very interesting but how is that relevant to a boat with only 150 hp on the back?
All in my humble opinion of course!
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Well as I said with a rcing hull without loads on the boat, zupped up F2 engine the boat could achieve those speeds. (In my very humble opinion also).
Just theorising here. But it makes sence doesn't it?
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06 January 2004, 12:25
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cookee
thanks for your honest statement - and thanx for the congratulations on the race, it took a lot of preparation (you should be familiar with the saying that one can never do enough preparation before a race) - the Trans Agulhas is more an endurance event than actual speed - man and machine is taken to the limit over the 5 day course, and sea conditions vary vastly. As a matter of interest part of this race is a 20km nightshift, run at night without any lights - only glowsticks are allowed for identification.
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06 January 2004, 12:25
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Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
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06 January 2004, 12:31
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: Morfa Nefyn, Gwynedd
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Whatever the tech spec. it's a great looking boat!
Can't get it to cut & paste, how did you know I didn't write it myself? No need for an answer
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06 January 2004, 12:36
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Member
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
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the engine does not write Greek Ian Try copy paste in a jpg file and post it as a photo attachement
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06 January 2004, 14:53
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jonny Fuller
OK, I worked out the average speed based on Falcon boats post saying the race was over 1000 km, and they took 8:47
quote:Final time for the 1000km race was 8 hours 47 minutes.
my sarcastic tone was because this would be superhuman in that boat/class, it now seems the race is over 669km (415 statute miles) which makes the average speed 47.2mph a little more plausable.
and well done to falcon for their win! (why didn't they say 669km's?)
PS, Manos, you're a silly boy!
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John what a rational and sensitive answer this was for you, you pointed out the false information which led to you deducing an incorrect average speed. You offered some constructive criticism of the Race Results report and you then went on to fully applaud Falcon on thier victory.
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06 January 2004, 15:15
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cippenham
Boat name: Falcon1
Make: Falcon
Length: 6m +
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dont worry he came out with plenty of Bxxxocks before that..I can see why he calls himself a Fat ginger twat
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06 January 2004, 16:24
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Boat name: GATO DI MARE
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06 January 2004, 17:14
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Quote:
PS, Manos, you're a silly boy!
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Now now Jonny, my mother always told me that when you resort to insults you have lost the agument...........
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06 January 2004, 17:28
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
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quote:Final time for the 1000km race was 8 hours 47
minutes
Was the only Bollix mentioned in his comments.
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06 January 2004, 17:31
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Member
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Town: Gloucetsreshire
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OK crew, shall we talk about RIBs again??
...and since this is a FALCON thread shall we talk about Falcons?
Chris has one 640SR, I have one 700RSR, our the new member Evan has same RIB as mine and last BUT NOT LEAST MR FALCON him self is here!!
So take this opportunity and fire away any questions that you may have about the boats and I'm sure that we will try to answer (if we can) and specially I think Pieter.
He knows all there is to know about the FALCON RIBs (he builds the things!!) and has a very extenssive knowldge on RIBs and I think that he will be more than happy to have a chat and answer.
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06 January 2004, 18:18
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Town: Brittany/Portsmouth
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Ok,
How come the internal hull build quality looks crap as shown in pics on previous threads
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Happy New Resolutions!!! : RIBbing for the craic!!!
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06 January 2004, 18:30
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Town: Gloucetsreshire
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How do you justify this Jakeen.
Have you checked the boat your self.
How something looks in a photo and how is actually in reality are two different things. Or you are an 'expert' on RIB lamination issues by proxy.
COME ON be serious this is completely rubish!!
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