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03 October 2006, 17:08
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Country: UK - England
Town: bicester, Oxford
Boat name: mach1
Make: avon SR5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp yamaha
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 177
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my searider 5.4 build project
After selling my 4m searider last summer i have been looking for a new rib. I love the searider but it was a bit basic compared with modern ribcrafts, XS's ect, problem being the internal beam of the searider.
I decided on a bare boat rebuild which after a lot of research would have an XS console a second double jockey seat, substantial A frame and a 90hp Yamaha!!
I have never done this before and have decided to document the build, i have made some mistakes and at time rushed the build, but hopefully it will look as i expect it.
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03 October 2006, 17:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: bicester, Oxford
Boat name: mach1
Make: avon SR5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp yamaha
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 177
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my searider 5.4 build project
First job was to sand the hull down. Bloody nightmare i went through a fortune in sandpaper and it did not make a dent in it.
Basically it has a non slip MOD deck so its akin to using sandpaper on sandpaper. Eventually i gave in and hired a belt sander this took 2-3 days solid and went through £60 worth of sandpaper!!!
After looking at another build on ribnet, i used a grinder to witle away the supports for the fuel tanks by the transom, again a slow job (these seariders are well made) i decided against trying to go for a flat deck after taking up advise from ribnet, bascially i have cut the console to fit the raised deck. (good advise)
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03 October 2006, 17:27
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: bicester, Oxford
Boat name: mach1
Make: avon SR5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp yamaha
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 177
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my searider 5.4 build project
As you can see from the previous thread i have decided to remove the tubes after finding a set of new tubes on Boats and outboards for £800, how could i not refuse at that price, it also made it easier to turn the hull over.
Instead of sanding down the hull i used paint remover, this i sprayed on and simply scraped off, job was done in a couple of hours!!
With the trailer free i decided to paint the trailer and change the bearings..
However after going to Southampton boat show and not finding any Rollers or any think else trailer related, i found a massive trailer center in southhampton where i spent £206 on 6 rollers, new wheel, new hitch attachment & hull rollers. Definately worth while trailer almost looks like new, although i still have a roller to fit and have not attached the mudflaps.
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03 October 2006, 17:46
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: bicester, Oxford
Boat name: mach1
Make: avon SR5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp yamaha
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 177
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my searider 5.4 build project
Next job painting hull, after taking advise from Tim M's thread i used to a roller, the only thing i can add is to advoid spending a fortune on rollers instead of using a foam roller which breaks up after 20 mins use a varnish roller i only used one and it leaves a finer finish.
I used International 2 pack Perfection paint, i went through 1 x undercoat and 2 x gloss finish approx £90 in paint and £10 in rollers
Great finish, a bit of light sanding with 120 grit and a polish its like a professional finish. (can't believe i did this)
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03 October 2006, 17:57
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Country: UK - England
Town: bicester, Oxford
Boat name: mach1
Make: avon SR5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp yamaha
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 177
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My searider 5.4 build project
I needed a fuel tank this came up on ebay i won at £80 for a 12 gallon tank. Rang Paul from Dessign & fabrication who even made my tank to my dimensions & added a sender unit, total cost includes carrage fro £110.
I also had Paul make an AFrame to my design this cost £150 for 1 1/2 tube a lot of the cost was carrage..
I can not recomend this guy enoth great communication and all done in over a week.
CONTACT PAUL ON 07742367310 ( DESIGN&FABRICATION
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03 October 2006, 18:05
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: bicester, Oxford
Boat name: mach1
Make: avon SR5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp yamaha
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 177
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My searider 5.4 build project
Next was to fit the XS console i purchased of ebay for £165 in bright orange, I contacted Barnet Marina to purchase the stainless back rest and grey cushion and ended up buying a double jockey with matching cushion and stainless backrest all for £670, they were very helpful.
I fitted the fuel tank to the hull and then glass fibred the console in and then next day the Double jockey..
I had purchased a couple of white hatchs for access to electrics and battery, as you can see i had cut the holes..
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03 October 2006, 18:08
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: bicester, Oxford
Boat name: mach1
Make: avon SR5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp yamaha
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 177
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My searider 5.4 build project
Today i sanded the deck after using lots of apoxy filler to smooth the deck and fill lots of holes on the transom..
Painted the undercoat on with roller (varnish roller, only used one)
Tomorrow the top coat again then a second topcoat then sand and polish!!!!!!!!!
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03 October 2006, 18:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: bicester, Oxford
Boat name: mach1
Make: avon SR5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp yamaha
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 177
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My searider 5.4 build project
I have also purchased a 90hp outboard.
It was for sale complete with a 440 driver speedboat and trailer for £2100, sounded cheap its a 1996 grey yamaha 2 stroke..
I went down to southampton to try it out on the speed boat, gent and his wife took me out in southampton waters, engine not been used since last season, but i had asked him not to start ir and change to fresh fuel.. however the engine was a little rough but not to bad, its problem was on asking for full throttle it behaved more like a 25hp rather than a 90hp i suspected the jets were blocked (ay least i hoped thats what it was) the rest was good, prop excellent, gearbox oil clear all plugs same colour & started very well..
However as i showed my doubt we renegociated at i purchased my new outboard (with free boat) for £1500.
on way home droped in to redline in abingdon who currently have the engine for carb strip down. Fingers crossed
Any body want a cheap trailer an speed boat call 07786 705252 £400
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03 October 2006, 18:39
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,069
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^^^ You use Mike too? Good isn't he.
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03 October 2006, 18:45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: bicester, Oxford
Boat name: mach1
Make: avon SR5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp yamaha
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Yep mike cripps use to do my old 50 yam, if he can't get it working im selling it!
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03 October 2006, 19:19
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Member
Country: France
Town: Côte d'Azur
Boat name: Beaver Patrol
Make: Avon Searider SR4
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,934
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Ian that looks really good. Looking forward to seeing the finished pics
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03 October 2006, 21:40
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Country: UK - England
Town: Rutland
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,500
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great looking project, love the hull finish
are you going to fit the tubes ?
James
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03 October 2006, 22:31
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Staffordshire
Boat name: Pacific 9134
Make: Halmatic
Length: 6m +
Engine: 300hp Suzuki
MMSI: 232043887
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 623
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Great boat, and great pics.
can't wait to see the finished product.
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04 October 2006, 12:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Enfield/Switzerland
Boat name: Zonneschijn II/Vixen
Make: Shakespeare/Avon
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evin' 175 DI /Yam 90
MMSI: 235055605
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,436
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Ah...so you beat me to the £800 set of new tubes...
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04 October 2006, 13:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: bicester, Oxford
Boat name: mach1
Make: avon SR5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp yamaha
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 177
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My searider 5.4 build project
cheers for the comments, you may have noticed a few spelling mistakes in my previous threads, this is down to the fact that i had a day off and shared a few beverages down the pub with friends, So leason learned.
Yes Bedajim i will be fitting the tubes myself, i am a bit nervous about it but i have done everythink else so why not.
Sorry Neil, neville had 3 sets of tubes @ £800 i was lucky myself to get the last ones.
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19 October 2006, 16:01
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: bicester, Oxford
Boat name: mach1
Make: avon SR5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp yamaha
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 177
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My searider 5.4 build project
At last i have the engine!!! the engine i purchased for £1500 complete with speedboat, had No throttle responce and very poor tickover.
After some time at Redline at Abingdon it was ready, all that was wrong was the badly set up carbs, a good clean needed & a top end service, i suspected that was all is was going to be after smelling the fuel from the filter, (thank god)
I also sold the speedboat for £400 so im pritty bloody happy!!!
I have now fitted the cushions & seat backs, battery box & battery and most of the electrics. I have spent some good money in this department as i found on my old searider after 1 year some of the connections had started to rust.. so ive soldered all connections and sealed them in there own waterproof box.
The A frame went on with a bit of adjustment and ive cut the holes to take the cabling for Nav lights & spotlights. Problem is i went to fit the steering cable would not fit A frame in the way, got to take it all off again. See what happens when you rush.
Both Steering cable, control cables & battery cables are all to short so ive put them on ebay, i will source new ones from redline as hes got them in stock..
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19 October 2006, 16:12
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,069
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Nice one so far Bargain on the engine!
If you want cheaper and better battery cables get some from a welding shop. You can get tinned flexible welding cable which is better than the normal stuff Mike sells. The connectors he has in are the best ones I've used so far though.
If you want to keep the electrics box nice and corrosion free give it a good spray round with this stuff AFTER you've assembled everything. It's bloody magic.
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19 October 2006, 17:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: bicester, Oxford
Boat name: mach1
Make: avon SR5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp yamaha
Join Date: Jan 2005
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cheers Nos, not heard of it before is it off the shelf??
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19 October 2006, 17:45
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Oakley
Boat name: Zerstörer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki DF 140
MMSI: 235050131
Join Date: Jun 2003
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Hi Matt,
Whats the price of that stuff and where do you get it ?
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19 October 2006, 21:39
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,069
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I got hold of some on Ebay a couple of years ago.It's so good I switched to using it (and the grease for all grease nipples) rather than WD40 for spraying up under the cowl too.
The only thing to watch is not to use it as a lube to force fuel fittings on to pipe with or get it IN your fuel at all it smell like burning plastic if you do(found this one out by experience)
and prob. isn't too good for your engine.
http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/sear...orrosion+block
The small bottles go quite a long way.Grab one and try it out
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