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29 April 2006, 22:40
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Interesting!!
The Ozone Depleating Substances Regulations I thought prevented the manufacture, storage and disposal of ODS.
As such my interpretation is that you can continue to have a Halon fire extinguisher on your boat but you cannot discharge it. However in the case of a fire on your boat I think you could argue successfully that you discharged the halon fire extinguisher to same life and limb.
What's wrong with a CO2 fire extinguisher anyway??
Plus, you really thing 2 kg of anything is really going to stop that 100 litre of petrol in the tanks from going boom???
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29 April 2006, 23:01
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CO2 is nowhere near as effective as Halon - about 6x less.
Even a small 1kg Halon extinguisher will put out a pretty big fire in a car or on a boat.
Obviously if the tanks go up you have probs but if they are full they aren't so dangerous - just putting the filler cap back on can put out the flames. Don't know if I would stay around to find out though!!!
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29 April 2006, 23:06
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Originally Posted by ashbypower
PS I am currently project manager for a Major Halon replacement programme for the MOD Land systems
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Codders this was the point when your authority and knowledge, combined with another rant at 'them' (Greens/Yanks/The Govt/Oil Companies/Inland Revenue/Microsoft/Any non Landrover 4x4 manufacturer* delete as applicable) runs into the 'bloke that actually knows what he is talking about cos its his job' brick wall. Time to quite whilst your ahead?
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29 April 2006, 23:10
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completely off subject, but saw an impreza on fire on the M1 today, all the mods on it, guy looked a bit embarrassing, we saw it about a minute after it started and there is no wayy a fire extinguisher would have put that out.
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29 April 2006, 23:30
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Originally Posted by Alan
Codders this was the point when your authority and knowledge, combined with another rant at 'them' (Greens/Yanks/The Govt/Oil Companies/Inland Revenue/Microsoft/Any non Landrover 4x4 manufacturer* delete as applicable) runs into the 'bloke that actually knows what he is talking about cos its his job' brick wall. Time to quite whilst your ahead?
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Just read it.....
And where exactly was I getting at the Yanks???
Maybe I should just jump ship like others have done and leave this country - I wouldn't need to rant then.
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29 April 2006, 23:31
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Originally Posted by Millermob
completely off subject, but saw an impreza on fire on the M1 today, all the mods on it, guy looked a bit embarrassing, we saw it about a minute after it started and there is no wayy a fire extinguisher would have put that out.
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Best thing for it - wonder which mod caused it....
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29 April 2006, 23:45
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Best thing for it - wonder which mod caused it....
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That'd be the one he said made it shit-hot...
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30 April 2006, 22:17
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Halon is the best ever - bloody Greens banning things - I am sure a burning car or RIB puts out far more crap than a Halon extinguisher.
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Must admit, when we had to change the ones on the rally cars, a elec remote halon found its way into the engine room on the yacht !!,
Then can do me,for letting it off, when i get back in one piece !!!
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01 May 2006, 20:54
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Originally Posted by jgrace
Should one fit a fuelcock on the fuel line to the outboard specifically to isolate it if it catches fire?
I've already got a fuel/water separator plus an extra filter on the line, I suppose another gubbins wouldn't go amiss.
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Most outboards have a quick disconnect fuel line, don't they? I know both of mine have. Motor catches fire, shut it down, and disconnect the line at the input (assuming it's not enveloped in flames.) Dry break connection, so there shouldn't be any spillage (though given the amount of maintenance they typically recieve, I wouldn't bet on it being 100% dry, either.)
jky
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01 May 2006, 21:49
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Originally Posted by jyasaki
Most outboards have a quick disconnect fuel line, don't they? I know both of mine have. Motor catches fire, shut it down, and disconnect the line at the input (assuming it's not enveloped in flames.) Dry break connection, so there shouldn't be any spillage (though given the amount of maintenance they typically recieve, I wouldn't bet on it being 100% dry, either.)
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Yeah, you're right. I guess I just need to make sure that when I get the bigger tank I've bought plumbed in under the double jockey, there's some way of isolating it at the tank end as well as at the engine end.
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