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20 August 2005, 10:41
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rib or landrover
Keep the doors closed!
Clip shows a flooding road (tidal). You have to see the rate of flood to believe it!
Early part - waiting for tide to come in
Mid part - driving out onto road as tide goes out
Last part - tide coming back in again
Sorry about the unregister notice , will try and remove soon. My kids filmed most of it so things are a bit shakey, but worth a watch anyway.
Also shows superiority of Landrover (again) as there were plenty of 4x4s but no one willing to go...
Doug
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20 August 2005, 14:17
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Originally Posted by myndit
Also shows superiority of Landrover (again) as there were plenty of 4x4s but no one willing to go...
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Not really sure what that proves! Other than the 'other' 4x4 owners weren't prepared to sign up for countless corrosion related structural, mechanical and electrical headaches in the coming months/years!
God help the poor bugger that unwittingly buys your Disco!
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20 August 2005, 15:21
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Not half. I may have a snorkel fitted to the 90, but any time it goes near the coast I attack it with a pressure washer.
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20 August 2005, 15:28
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Land Rovers in my area do stuff like that every day - as long as you wash them down with plenty of fresh water afterwards they last years.
As to keeping the doors shut - in DEEP wading you actually have to open them to stop the vehicle floating away!!!
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20 August 2005, 16:05
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I can't download any of your stuff Doug, how about a web address?
Nice to see you back,
Andy
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20 August 2005, 17:16
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Land Rovers in my area do stuff like that every day - as long as you wash them down with plenty of fresh water afterwards they last years.
As to keeping the doors shut - in DEEP wading you actually have to open them to stop the vehicle floating away!!!
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What you mean is you have to keep the doors closed to stop them RUSTING AWAY
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20 August 2005, 17:27
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Agreed on the corrosion, it is normally the areas you cannot get to with the waxoyl that take you by surprise. However 20 mins with the pressure washer and all was back to normal. The real purpose of the clip was to show the speed of the tide. At one end of the road (5.5km) there is a bar with some photos. It shows a number of lorries,coaches,camper vans, cars and people in various states of distress, despite the huge warnings, flashing lights and danger of death signs.
If you are ever in the area (40 kms south of St Nazaire France) take a look, but check the tide tables first!!
Thanks for looking, and now I know how to do it, I shall try to upload more.
Rgds
Doug
PS Hi again Andy, had not really gone away, just been a bit busy.
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20 August 2005, 23:23
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Originally Posted by Hightower
I can't download any of your stuff Doug, how about a web address?
Nice to see you back,
Andy
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use: http://myndit.dogscogs.com/road.wmv
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30 August 2005, 14:31
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Doug... you are mad... you deserve a medal... Would love to try that in my landy but the chassis is bad enough at 36...
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01 September 2005, 18:00
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Quite funny really
Well well
There I was spouting off about how cool Landrovers are and how you can wade up to 700mm in Sea Water when:
Phone call from my wife - Landrover broke down in our driveway, unable to move forwards or backwards. Blocked in her car (yaris) and my bike trapped in garage.....
Investigation later that evening revealed handbrake seized on. Strip down entire brake mech. (after removing rear propshaft) because in my own mind some seeds of doubt were growing regarding the ingress of sea water and the handbrake mechanism....
3 hours of horizontal grunting and I had found the problem.
Nothing wrong whatsoever with the brake!
The w****** who had recently MOTd it, had broken (and removed) the thumbweel adjuster (inside car, 5 mins work to fix) and the brake cable had adjusted itself up slightly more every time we had used it....
The drum and mechanism were perfect by the way.
Just waiting for the skin to grow back on my knuckles now
Doug
Kinda glad it didn't happen when the tide was coming in!
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02 September 2005, 09:23
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As to keeping the doors shut - in DEEP wading you actually have to open them to stop the vehicle floating away!!!
Come off it Codders- that load of tin will sink like a stone. Its not hermatic and there are enough gaps in the joints that you dont need windows.
Tell you what ,Codders bring yours to Nieuwport and will leave it on the ramp at low tide- you can even close the doors and windows and see if it floats!!!!!
jonathan
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02 September 2005, 12:12
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In all my years of swimming landies (bonnet deep) I have never suffered from them floating away!
Would be a nightmare at that depth to maintian speed and keep the door open!
Funny as you like though codders
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02 September 2005, 12:49
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Believe it or not it is actually true!!!
In fast moving waters like rivers etc even a Land Rover will be swept away by the current - think on surface area!!!
The Royal Marines are the ex[erts in prepping them for REALLY deep wading - takes a long time - Land Rover actually do a proper kit for the job.
New brake resevoir cap - normal ones have a hole in them. Special dipstick - raise ALL breathers - the list is endless.
Land Rovers are pretty good as standard though - still the only vehicle I have seen with gaiters around the indicator and wiper stalks!!!
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02 September 2005, 13:50
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Land Rovers... still the only vehicle I have seen with gaiters around the indicator and wiper stalks!!!
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Loads of cars have them.... all Volvo cars and lorries used to have them. Only cosmetic I reckon if the water's that high, then it's time to bale out
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02 September 2005, 14:06
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Loads of cars have them.... all Volvo cars and lorries used to have them. Only cosmetic I reckon if the water's that high, then it's time to bale out
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Think they used to buy them off BL - believ it or not the Lambo diablo used indicator stalks off a Rover SD1 - Lambo bloke was NOT happy when I pointed that out to him...........
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02 September 2005, 14:37
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Think they used to buy them off BL......
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Err, umm, this is a bit chicken and egg, but it's more likely that a common component is bought from the same component supplier. It's surprising how little motor manufacturers actually make - usually the engine and body panels, although suppliers like Beans Engineering and Motor Panels used to make a lot of these as well.
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02 September 2005, 16:16
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Err, umm, this is a bit chicken and egg, but it's more likely that a common component is bought from the same component supplier. It's surprising how little motor manufacturers actually make - usually the engine and body panels, although suppliers like Beans Engineering and Motor Panels used to make a lot of these as well.
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It is the same with most things - which is why I go on about how little is REALLY new out there - I mean all lifejackets look the same - SOMEONE must have come up with the modern vest style first!!!
Same with computers - no matter what make you buy the bits inside will all be the same.
Also makes a mockery of people who insist on genuine parts - very few manufacturers make things like brakes - or waterpumps etc.
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02 September 2005, 18:18
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In fast moving waters like rivers etc even a Land Rover will be swept away by the current - think on surface area!!!
That' not a real arguement - if I remember correctly on some of the images of the tseumi- we even saw 10 ton buses being swept away- and what happened earlier this year- wasnt' there some flash flooding in one of your welsh villages & everything seemed to have been swept away- I suppse that given enough velocity nothing can stand up to waterflow.
Jonathan
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02 September 2005, 18:56
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Originally Posted by eupa
In fast moving waters like rivers etc even a Land Rover will be swept away by the current - think on surface area!!!
That' not a real arguement - if I remember correctly on some of the images of the tseumi- we even saw 10 ton buses being swept away- and what happened earlier this year- wasnt' there some flash flooding in one of your welsh villages & everything seemed to have been swept away- I suppse that given enough velocity nothing can stand up to waterflow.
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True but I am on about normal river crossings - and take it from me - a vehicle full of water will be a LOT more stable than one full of air!!!
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05 September 2005, 11:02
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The technical argument at issue here is more simply viewed if one compares the water to very "thick" wind, if an uplift from this and some inherrant bouyancy in the vehicle is sufficient to negate the friction of the tryres away you'll go.
Water also is pretty dense stuff, there arent many people who can actually stand in fast moving water above calf height, I didnt believe it till I tried it. I've also seen a diesel landrover with its backend floating up unable to move, doors and load area open etc.
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