Saily Boat idiots

limeydal · 08 May 2005, 19:49

You think this guy would have realised he was outmatched!!
Still tried to cut across this outgoing cruise ship yesterday.

I was watching and waiting to go in and pick up the pieces but he just about made it.
Maybe just because he has a mast on that thing, he thinks the cruise ship should give way.
(even though he was under power and the cruise ship had right of way anyhow)

cheers Dal

Jimbo · 08 May 2005, 20:57

Be careful, be very careful (Me upset, sailing is now, and will always be my first love!)

I don't think he was even close, clearly not trying hard enough. The attached picture shows me at the Yachting World Dayboat Nationals playing chicken with a ferry; I was only 14', and I DID have sails up!

ollyit · 08 May 2005, 21:24

jezzzus, thought it was a windsurfer at first!

Jimbo · 08 May 2005, 21:30

I was going almost as fast as a windsurfer...

What can I say? I though the ferry might want to play! I bought the driver a drink later, apparently I scared him witless; he thought he'd run me down...

limeydal · 08 May 2005, 21:36

Jimbo,
at least having the sails up, you had some speed !!
This guy was puttering across on his engine only and wasn't making that much headway.
PS I still like "saily things" heres a couple to make you feel better!

codprawn · 08 May 2005, 22:02

Remember power must give way to sail..............

Bloody hell Dal - you certainly get out on the water a lot - no wonder you moved out there - don't you get bored of the weather!!!

Having said that the last few days here have been great for ribbing - if I had my rib!!! Have taken to standing out on piers and jettys to be as close to the sea as possible - SAD!!!

Jimbo · 08 May 2005, 22:14

2 things:

Vessel restricted in ability to maneuvre
Vessel constrained by draught

I wasn't going to spend too long arguing, I was close, but I wasn't going to hit him!

Looking at some of those Yacht photos, I wish I was where you are Dal! Made me jealous!

codprawn · 09 May 2005, 02:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbo

2 things:

Vessel restricted in ability to maneuvre
Vessel constrained by draught

I wasn't going to spend too long arguing, I was close, but I wasn't going to hit him!

Looking at some of those Yacht photos, I wish I was where you are Dal! Made me jealous!

I was just being sarky.............

limeydal · 09 May 2005, 06:56

Codprawn,
yes love being on the water

Must admit I'm trying to get the boat all ready for a camping trip to the Channel Islands next month. (21 miles offshore )
So just fitted Sounder/GPS/plotter and was playing around seeing how it worked this weekend.
Thought I needed it ,as although good weather here, we do get early morning fog.
Must admit even with the base maps it came with,it does seem to do a great job

cheers Dal

codprawn · 09 May 2005, 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by limeydal

Codprawn,
yes love being on the water

Must admit I'm trying to get the boat all ready for a camping trip to the Channel Islands next month. (21 miles offshore )
So just fitted Sounder/GPS/plotter and was playing around seeing how it worked this weekend.
Thought I needed it ,as although good weather here, we do get early morning fog.
Must admit even with the base maps it came with,it does seem to do a great job

cheers Dal

I would have thought the channel Islands were a bit further than that!!!

Jimbo · 09 May 2005, 15:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by codprawn

I was just being sarky.............

Fair enuff...

It always conjures up a mental picture of a sailing dinghy sitting in the wake of a ferry, with the skipper in the water barely floating, wagging his finger and shouting "power gives way to sail"...

Jimbob · 09 May 2005, 16:13

I looked at the ferry and the sailing boat which is underpower (in this county, not sure of nativation in the US e.g laterals and navigation).

Firstly

was the ferry - restricted by draft - dont know but would assume so
Was the Ferry - RAM - dont know but would assume so - some ferrys can move very well

However, if you treat as both power, then the ferry can see the green nav light of the sail both and the sail boat would have seen the red nav light of the ferry, so ferry has right of way

I think the sailing boat(of which i sail) was a cutting it too fine, i see this all the time. If something had gone wrong i dont see the get out plan.

limeydal · 10 May 2005, 03:35

Jimbob,
think the rules over here are pretty much the same.
As you said the Cruise ship was the Stand -on vessel and the yacht the Give way vessel. The yacht had the choice to slow down and let the ship pass or alter course to starboard to pass astern of it.
Not as though you couldn't see this thing coming anyway

Also ship announced its departure On VHF and with horn.
(and yes rules of vessel restricted in ability to maneuver and constrained by draft did apply.)

One other rule that does seem to apply though is the "General Prudential rule" .It says "consider any special circumstances that may make you depart from the rules to avoid immediate danger"
So even if the saily thing thought he had right of way ;the above rule would suggest,'
"Get out of the #*##*** way, you are going to get creamed !!!!

"
(well at least thats my interpretation of it

)

cheers Dal