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10 March 2006, 23:09
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Seat layout on 7.5m
I think i've found a worse seat layout for a 7.5m rib than I have! in my opinion anyway!
1) The worse one
2) Mine (although, mines changing fairly soon!)
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11 March 2006, 00:46
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Yes I can (just) agree with you mate
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11 March 2006, 09:03
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Benc,
1000% correct. How anyone could sit on a rear seat like that in anything other that flat calm conditions is beyond me. Aspirations of Marbella life perhaps ??? Speed + jockey seats = comfort + safety for your passengers.
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11 March 2006, 09:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty
Benc,
1000% correct. How anyone could sit on a rear seat like that in anything other that flat calm conditions is beyond me. Aspirations of Marbella life perhaps ??? Speed + jockey seats = comfort + safety for your passengers.
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Come to Ribex and we'll show you! (Not in that boat - one of ours!)!
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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11 March 2006, 11:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty
Benc,
1000% correct. How anyone could sit on a rear seat like that in anything other that flat calm conditions is beyond me. Aspirations of Marbella life perhaps ??? Speed + jockey seats = comfort + safety for your passengers.
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So Scorpion and Revenger have got it wrong then?
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11 March 2006, 11:15
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yep, IMHO bench seats are best for flat calm seas and become a pain in anything beyond a chop and dangerous in anything worse.
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11 March 2006, 13:28
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I'd completely agree with you about bench seats for the helm, but I've actually found that they can be very comfortable at the stern even when it's quite heavy going. When it gets really bad, on most RIBs you can stand and hold the backrest of one of the other seats.
I would happily have one in any RIB of 7.5m or bigger, but I've also been very comfy on a wrap-round sofa on a Ribcraft 585!
John
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11 March 2006, 21:42
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My experience is that the further aft you sit in a rib,the more comfortable it is,so if you are going to have a bench seat,right back is the best place,you still cant stay on the thing like you can on a jockey seat when the conditions get boisterous though!
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11 March 2006, 21:44
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but at the end of the day it is nice to have some chunky stainless to hold on to when the going gets rough cold but comforting
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11 March 2006, 23:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dino
So Scorpion and Revenger have got it wrong then?
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Sorry Dino I never said that . Please read my post again. I said........."Speed + jockey seats = comfort + safety for your passengers"
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12 March 2006, 10:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty
Sorry Dino I never said that . Please read my post again. I said........."Speed + jockey seats = comfort + safety for your passengers"
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Which implies that anything else is not safe or comfortable??
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Cookee
Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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12 March 2006, 11:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
Which implies that anything else is not safe or comfortable??
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Don't know about all boats but I have sat on the bench seat on Cookee's "Bananashark" at nearly 60mph very safe and very comforable.
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12 March 2006, 11:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by randski
Don't know about all boats but I have sat on the bench seat on Cookee's "Bananashark" at nearly 60mph very safe and very comforable.
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Bob, I that picture, the rear seat passengers had disappeared!
With seat layout, it's a question of what you want... a lot of dive ribs have just a single helm jockey and lots of room for tanks and for getting kitted up - Ben, I believe that your RIB was owned by a diver who did a lot of race safety and hence the layout.
Like timboli and JK have said, a bench seat at the rear can be surprisingly comfortable, and when combined with jockey seats forward, make an ideal combination. The wrap-around type that are built into transom wells are particularly good, up to a limit, and it is usually the wettest place to sit on a RIB at speed, but a rear jockey would be no different in that respect.
The other advantage of bench seats is the huge amount of storage they can accomodate, and they are much easier to pack into then a narrow jockey seat.
Avoid bench seats for helm seats, and avoid any bench seat without arms though for an offshore RIB - they become suicide seats!
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12 March 2006, 19:20
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Originally Posted by Richard B
Ben, I believe that your RIB was owned by a diver who did a lot of race safety and hence the layout.
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Thats kind of what I thought - however, the rib was in pristine condition when I got it, not a mark on it - which kind of made me wonder if it was used for diving - surely a dive boat with tanks and other equipment would get scratched up a bit more?
Anyway , in the next month or so, I should be getting the rear seats I have removed, and putting in two triple jockies - each with backrest - should make cruising a bit safer for other passengers
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12 March 2006, 20:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John Kennett
I'd completely agree with you about bench seats for the helm, but I've actually found that they can be very comfortable at the stern even when it's quite heavy going. When it gets really bad, on most RIBs you can stand and hold the backrest of one of the other seats.
I would happily have one in any RIB of 7.5m or bigger, but
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AS usual I find myself in complete agreement wiv da boss.
They are OK at the stern but nowhere else, one does have to be careful of weight distribution however!
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12 March 2006, 21:28
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Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
one does have to be careful of weight distribution however!
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what about a bench seat at the back of a 5.5m ish gemini?
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13 March 2006, 23:20
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Country: UK - England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard B
Like timboli and JK have said, a bench seat at the rear can be surprisingly comfortable, and when combined with jockey seats forward, make an ideal combination. The wrap-around type that are built into transom wells are particularly good, up to a limit, and it is usually the wettest place to sit on a RIB at speed, but a rear jockey would be no different in that respect.
The other advantage of bench seats is the huge amount of storage they can accomodate, and they are much easier to pack into then a narrow jockey seat.
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I agree - I've got a rear bench seat - passengers get very wet in a big sea but lots of storage. Proper hand holds and they have all been comfortable and stayed in the boat so far! If weather get really bad then Driver/Navigator jockey seats have got stainless hand grips for passengers to stand behind and hold on to. Compromise - but safe and works well - also leaves deck space for kitting up for diving by not having another pair of jockeys in the way. The rear bench is reversable so if towing toys someone can keep an eye on the guy in the water. Front bow seat & front console bench are definately somewhere to avoid in heavy weather though! I'll try & get some pics up on the site - be interesting to see what you think of the layout.
Jeff
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13 March 2006, 23:48
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I can recall sitting on the bench seat in the back of Robin's Ribtec 585 drinking a bottle of buck's fizz in a fairly choppy sea. It seemed very comfortable to me!
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17 March 2006, 00:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by benc
Thats kind of what I thought - however, the rib was in pristine condition when I got it, not a mark on it - which kind of made me wonder if it was used for diving - surely a dive boat with tanks and other equipment would get scratched up a bit more?
Anyway , in the next month or so, I should be getting the rear seats I have removed, and putting in two triple jockies - each with backrest - should make cruising a bit safer for other passengers
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No no go for single or double pods!! Triples mean the person in the middle hasn't got anything substantial to hold on to. (unless you have the seperating back rests along them.)
Plus you could just add doubles behind the single ones you've already got!
Chris
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17 March 2006, 08:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CJL
No no go for single or double pods!! Triples mean the person in the middle hasn't got anything substantial to hold on to. (unless you have the seperating back rests along them.)
Plus you could just add doubles behind the single ones you've already got!
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I'm going for two new triples, as I can get them to look the same, if I just put two doubles in behind the single pods I have, then they will almost look different and look a bit on in the boat... Also the triples will have the back rest for each of the seating position on the seat so the middle person will have something to hold on to.
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