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Chris Caton · 31 January 2013, 13:10

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Originally Posted by lakelandterrier

Just beware Nissans with Diesel Particulate Filter Systems.....I'm having terrible problems with my X-Trail which apparrantly has become "clogged" and Nissan are telling I need a new one at £2400 fitted!

Considering that the risk of particle build up should only affect cars doing short urban trips where the engine doesn't reach op temp, and mine spends it life doing long motorway runs (80k miles in 3 years) this problem shouldn't ever have occurred.

Problem first appeared at 53k miles and Nissan refused to consider it was a warranty issue them & I've been fighting them for over a year and 5 trips into the the garage. They nowe say car's out of warranty so nothing they'll do.

Won't be buying another one - shame at it's a good vehicle to drive!

can you do away with the filter, bit like doing away with the cat

mick · 31 January 2013, 13:38

DPFs seem to cause as much trouble as EGRs do

bedajim · 01 February 2013, 08:11

My first one 100k on the clock when I sold it and still going

Perroboy · 01 February 2013, 11:17

Take it to a tuner.Get rid of DPF and remap it.I was quoted £350 all in for a Peugot 4007 (Outlander).

lakelandterrier · 09 February 2013, 19:41

Anyway here's Aquahound behind the X-trail

whisper · 09 February 2013, 19:45

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Originally Posted by lakelandterrier

Just beware Nissans with Diesel Particulate Filter Systems.....I'm having terrible problems with my X-Trail which apparrantly has become "clogged" and Nissan are telling I need a new one at £2400 fitted!

Considering that the risk of particle build up should only affect cars doing short urban trips where the engine doesn't reach op temp, and mine spends it life doing long motorway runs (80k miles in 3 years) this problem shouldn't ever have occurred.

Problem first appeared at 53k miles and Nissan refused to consider it was a warranty issue them & I've been fighting them for over a year and 5 trips into the the garage. They nowe say car's out of warranty so nothing they'll do.

Won't be buying another one - shame at it's a good vehicle to drive!

Is this the fault that makes the engine rev out of control at max revs until it blows and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

mick · 09 February 2013, 19:51

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Originally Posted by whisper

Is this the fault that makes the engine rev out of control at max revs until it blows and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

I thought that was something to do with the injectors
It happened to a customer of mine when he was towing a tri axle cattle truck with a load of beef cows

whisper · 09 February 2013, 19:59

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Originally Posted by mick

I thought that was something to do with the injectors
It happened to a customer of mine when he was towing a tri axle cattle truck with a load of beef cows

Ummmm, I don't know what causes it but I've seen it twice on the motorway. Not a nice thing to happen.

mick · 09 February 2013, 20:33

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Originally Posted by whisper

Ummmm, I don't know what causes it but I've seen it twice on the motorway. Not a nice thing to happen.

Conrod bolts and oil pump problems

Anchorhandler · 09 February 2013, 20:38

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Originally Posted by whisper

Ummmm, I don't know what causes it but I've seen it twice on the motorway. Not a nice thing to happen.

Its normally the turbo's oil seals that fail which causes the running away problem. The engine starts feeding itself on its own sump oil ingested through leaking oil seals on the compressor side.
Seen this happen on a V8 Scania truck engine once (along with a few 1.9 Dci Renault engines).
All you can do is put the vehicle in the highest gear possible and try to stall the engine by driving away....(or stuff a pillow in the air inlet pipe to the blower)

Simon

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whisper · 09 February 2013, 20:41

Seen it on a small Vauxhall Diesel, smoke filled both lanes of the motorway as the family just watched on the hard shoulder for it to blow...

Anchorhandler · 09 February 2013, 20:54

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Originally Posted by whisper

Seen it on a small Vauxhall Diesel, smoke filled both lanes of the motorway as the family just watched on the hard shoulder for it to blow...

Yeah its a horrible thing to have to witness if your not aware of what's happaning. Most people first reaction is to switch off the engine......which makes feck-all difference.

I had a 2005 Espace (1.9Dci) in the workshop last summer which had suffered this fate.....my son's nanny had just started it in a local supermarket car park when it ran away with itself. It ran for about 2 minutes...............and then stopped very suddenly

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Recon engine job.

Simon

whisper · 09 February 2013, 21:21

So just stick it in the highest gear and stall it then?

lakelandterrier · 12 February 2013, 17:42

No I don't think so.
I think when the filter clogs the engine burns fuel harder in ordrer burn off the soot build up - thus putting more stress & heat on the moving bits and the oil.....risks longer term damage.
Don't understand it, but that how it was explianed to me.....
Still arguing ith Nissan as to why the consider a part they replaced under warranty only a year ago and has failed again is nothing to dowith them.
Their latest excuse is......"the car can't have been driven to the "specification conformity required", as the filter would clog under proper use. I'm not sure how runs on 50-200 miles most days cruising at 2,000-2,500 revs withthe engine at operating temperature for most of the journey is not "driving to the conformity specification required" - although to be honest I don't know exactly what that means!

Nos4r2 · 17 February 2013, 12:33

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Originally Posted by whisper

So just stick it in the highest gear and stall it then?

Thats what I did when the turbo on my old 2.3 Trooper blew.

BogMonster · 20 February 2013, 08:50

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Originally Posted by whisper

Is this the fault that makes the engine rev out of control at max revs until it blows and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

That's turbo seals. It's quite impressive but scary and can happen to any turbocharged engine - I've only seen it once. Here's a sample from Youtube...

Runaway Diesel Defender 200 TDI - YouTube

tony t · 16 June 2013, 21:29

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Originally Posted by kerny

3 litre Terrano.

lets revive this thread

kerny · 16 June 2013, 21:37

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Originally Posted by tony t

lets revive this thread

There all to busy "working" mate

mister p · 16 June 2013, 23:00

What happens with the revving bit is that, as BogMonster says, it's the turbo seals. As the diesel has no ignition, when the seals go the unit starts fuelling itself through the seals with oil and it effectively self governs itself to maximum revs.
Happened on a friends 530d which used up all its oil and stopped. Strangely all it needed was a service and didn't appear to suffer at all. It was an auto so he couldn't stall it. Would be interesting to see how many times a clutch would deal with a redline stall!!!

prairie tuber · 12 July 2013, 07:46

1989 Nissan Safari with a TD42 inline 6 diesel.. Probably one of the most bulletproof engines you'll find anywhere (some of the Aussies have 2.5-3 million km on theirs without a rebuild), but it is gutless without a turbo. Fortunately it is in the process of having one fitted

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Nissan never brought Patrols/Safaris to North America, which is a real shame. This was originally a Japanese Domestic Market vehicle that was eventually imported privately. Planning to keep this one for a long time.