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06 June 2005, 12:56
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Country: UK - England
Town: ramsgate
Boat name: Micki Dee Bee
Make: Ribcraft Seasafari
Length: 9m +
Engine: Twin 250hp Suzuki
MMSI: 235057235
Join Date: Jan 2004
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seat harness
Whilst wondering along the visitors boats at Ribex I noticed a cunning mod on one of the boats.
The boat had two Britax childs seats bolted in.
Wot a great idea I thought.
Then I wondered wot happens if it all went a bit "pete tong"!
Is the owner a member on here?
If so please don't think I am knocking it as I think it is a great idea, just what do you do or how would you plan to deal with a roll over?
Whilst it is not an every day thing that a rib rolls but me being me likes to cover all the bases.
I would consider copying this idea on my rib (due next year) for the younger members of my family.
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06 June 2005, 13:59
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
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I have seen this idea in a few boating mags - obviously it comes down to level of risk. There is a far higher chance of a kid falling overboard or striking an object in the boat than there is of a capsize - obviously with kids on board you will drive far more sensibly.
Having said that if a kid DOES fall overboard then a lifejacket should protect them whereas IF you did capsize they would have NO chance!!!
I think with adults it could be a bit different if you had a harness with a quick release buckle like on aircraft - if you are wearing a helmet you should remain concious long enough to "eject".
Another thought - with kids strapped in you MAY be tempted to push things a little harder - especially as they will probably be loving it which means a capsize could become more of a possibility.
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06 June 2005, 14:23
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Town: Dorset
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Im suprised someone hasnt come up with a water activated auto release harness along the same lines as an automatic life jacket
Better get back to the revison!
Alex
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06 June 2005, 14:33
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Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ADS
Im suprised someone hasnt come up with a water activated auto release harness along the same lines as an automatic life jacket
Better get back to the revison!
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Oh they have - as far back as 1965 Matin Baker the British ejector seat maker came up with this
http://www.ejectorseats.co.uk/underwater_ejection.htm
Ejector seats for RIBS - that's what we want - just don't use it under a bridge!!!
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06 June 2005, 14:46
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Country: UK - England
Town: scotland
Boat name: Leviathan
Make: Phantom
Length: 8m +
Engine: GM Diesels
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,437
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Ejector seats for RIBS - that's what we want
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I think you'll find one 'Mr Garfish' has been working on such a thing for some time.
He calls it his 'Ribster-flicka', and it's activated by shouting the word...'Pull!' this cry is heard shortly before a loud bang, sometimes two.
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06 June 2005, 16:44
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 115,50 & 15Hp Yams
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Kids seats
I have had my kids out on the boat under 1 year old, push chair strapped in works well! Have moved on to this combination, kids car seat & old buggy with wheels & handles cut off work a treat!
Nick
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06 June 2005, 16:48
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Country: UK - England
Town: nr Lymington
Boat name: JU-JU
Make: Halmatic PAC22
Length: 6m +
Engine: 140.5 Mermaid
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Used to use the doughnut for the kids never heard any complaints well not at 28knots anyway Des
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18 May 2006, 01:49
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Country: USA
Town: Fairfield
Boat name: Sunrider
Make: Zodiac
Length: 7.3
Engine: MerCruiser (bio)diesel 180hp I/O
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John, did you ever have the opportunity to use the Stidd seats on the water? I'm contemplating putting two of mine into the 30' ex-military Novamarine I'm reconditioning now and wonder how they performed for you.
Bryan
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18 May 2006, 02:44
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Country: USA
Town: Punta gorda Fl.
Boat name: War Machine
Make: Falcon U.S.A.
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Re: Stidd seats
Just to interject, I have had several opportunities to test the military Stidd seat, the Stidds work very nicely, most civilians will never use the full capability of a Stidd seat. Nautica in Miami has been putting these seats in some of their boats for years, they are supposed to be the best for running in heavy chop, the U.S. Navy purchased about 400 of these seats for their SEAL teams in 2004, running at 45 to 50 knots in significant sea states produces a lot of injuries no matter how tough you are, seven inches of up and down travel reduces shock quite a bit. They do take up quite a bit of space, but you won't find a better shock mitigating seat. Besides, the harness is really cool! Overkill for most recreational boats, but hey if you have some or can find a deal on some why not? By the way John, they look good in your boat, your seats will be envied by others!
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18 May 2006, 03:39
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Town: Fairfield
Boat name: Sunrider
Make: Zodiac
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thanks very much for that information. I have 3 of these seats, but they are the pre-shock mitigating version (800-101v.4). I've been waiting for a good opportunity to use them and although I will need to alter the base to match the available space I think I'll give it a try. thanks again.
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18 May 2006, 08:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sunrider
John, did you ever have the opportunity to use the Stidd seats on the water? I'm contemplating putting two of mine into the 30' ex-military Novamarine I'm reconditioning now and wonder how they performed for you.
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I spent a day out on the boat last year and the seats were good, but nothing like as special as the hype. The new shock absorbing version are probably a whole different experience, but compared to these MkI Stidds I'd just as soon have a decent jockey seat or a proper bucket seat.
Something to think about if you fit these is the console design. Ergonomics rarely seems to be a strong point on production RIBs, but having a helm that is usable in both standing and sitting positions is even more of a challenge.
By the way, if anyone's interested I believe that the RIB is for sale.
John
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18 May 2006, 10:21
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Town: Poole
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Originally Posted by John Kennett
By the way, if anyone's interested I believe that the RIB is for sale.
John
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You need to sign-up as a paid member to start selling things on this forum , or else you'll feel the wrath of the tyrant who runs this site or his duputies.
Mark
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18 May 2006, 10:48
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John
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