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Old 07 November 2004, 21:47   #1
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the new sub fives baby

the day started meeting bilge rat at dartford for a early trek to bradwell
to meet lord davies and richard l for a fun freezing day

put the new toy in the water started first time but ten minutes after turning the gps on it goes blank never to be see again sent bethany over
to bilge rats to remove his see pic

so out we go to west mersa for a short spin no speed trials to day with the GPS down playing about on the backwater i notice a steering problem.
engine sliping in turns so we head for lunch and meet peter the first
shakespeare owner come down to have a chat

on the water more sliping turns we call it a day nav lights work fine

with some slip way talk on what was to blame for the sliping check engine hight put prop bag on and just about to leave let have a look and see were
the trim tab is take the bag off no trim tab it must have been lose and fell off

not the worst day but could have been better as they say things can only get better

any help on the navman would bee cool have on paper work or wireing details
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Old 07 November 2004, 21:48   #2
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one last pic must be still

all so a big thanks to RICH L for keeping bethany happy with jaffer cakes and sharp turns on his rib when she was cold and wanted to go home

thanks rich
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Old 07 November 2004, 21:55   #3
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Looking good, Dan. Sorry to hear it didn't all go quite to plan but sure you'll have it all sorted soon!

Might be a stupid question but, apart from colour (! ), what are the differences between this boat and your last one? (Can't remember what the last one was like but think it had a bench instead of jockey seat for driver?)
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Old 07 November 2004, 21:57   #4
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In like the boat Dan, I take it is a 4.5 M? What horsepower is the Mercury? Loosing the trim tab is only a minor thing - more annoying than anything else. How did the boat go compared to Bilge's avon with the new 60, i hope you raced him
Hope you have fun with the new boat

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Old 07 November 2004, 22:00   #5
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At last Dan the secrets out,hope you had fun,are you pleased with it? sorry I did'nt get down but I started to feel a bit better so decided to give the grass a last cut for the year,I also had to get the boat ready for the first fishing trip of the winter for next week-end.Glad you got another Rib mate,look forward to seeing it in the flesh,or is it PVC?.
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Old 07 November 2004, 22:32   #6
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Well done Dan. That didn't take you long.

She looks the business.

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Old 07 November 2004, 22:35   #7
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Might be a stupid question but, apart from colour (! ), what are the differences between this boat and your last one? (Can't remember what the last one was like but think it had a bench instead of jockey seat for driver?)
not a stupid question at all its all to do with layout yes they where both 4.5m
the first one had a bench seat with steering consul but the problem i had was the weight of fuel and driver at the rear of the craft i had up graded to
tiwn 25l for the long trips and ended up with a ton of lead up fron to balance this which made any wave rideing with bad and the front pointing sky ward
all the time

the new one is a dive and rescue spec with uprated tubes and fitting the two man jockey and a bonus rear bench for any crew can take the two 25l
tanks as well the lay out will be better for the british weather
i hope this one will make biggles next sub 5 round the IOW

the engine and boat are under two years old the engine is a 50hp 3cyl
i think it 957 cc as the old mariner was only 657cc 2 cyl

ADS i did not race bilge but the top end was faster than the last but no gps
to read speed will try to sort that out hope it power problems only

by the way i sold the old rib wednesday and got the new one thursday
the next day must be a record
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Old 07 November 2004, 22:40   #8
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Dan,I like!! Reminds me of my first RIB (see pic) A Valiant DR490 with Merc 75. Yours looks very smart with the red/black engine tubes colour combo. Is the Merc 2 stroke? Power?

With the jockey console further forward than your last one, she'll be better set up for the rough stuff. You're gonna have some fun in her. I can always remember my best thrills were in my Valiant. She'll Fly!!

Edit just saw your post re: engine questions
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Well worth the upgrade Dan,
a three cylinder will be smoother at idle than a twin cylinder and the extra 10 horses over your old boat will be useful if you fancy a bit of wake boarding or sking. I guess its also a bit of a rocket ship with that on the back -should easily break the 30 knot barrier.
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Thanks for the info Dan. Sounds like you learnt a lot from owning your first boat. Hope you have even more fun in this one and looking forward to seeing you in the Solent some time!
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yes its a two stroke unit

i came so close to getting this years orange DR4.90 new but the boat and trailer end up at 5k which left me heading for a 70 hp second hand 1996 engine
to keep in my buget

but the 4.5m came up needs a bit of work cleaning and storting
but should be ok after that

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In like the boat Dan, I take it is a 4.5 M? What horsepower is the Mercury? Loosing the trim tab is only a minor thing - more annoying than anything else. How did the boat go compared to Bilge's avon with the new 60, i hope you raced him
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Ads... he didn't stand a chance, the superiority and power ratio of the Yamaha left him gob smacked we ran a speed comparision on very flat conditions (as my GPS works ) and at about 28 knots i started to pull away from Dan until he was just a speck in the distance
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Thanks guys for a great run out, being a Bradwell virgin his Lordship Lord Davies of Chelmsford took me over to have a look at Rat island whilst Dan and Rich L tried to work out why the new Valiant wouldn't turn corners correctly, the weather was supperb if not a little cold and i managed to get myself back into the safety of the south without incident.

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One more pic of Dan's new baby.

Great having Bethany on board. Gave me an excuse to do all those silly turns.... Maybe nextime I should bring my own 7 year old daughter!

Great to meet Bilge & Peter for the first time.

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nice pic rich

thanks for keeping bethany happy she all ways complains about calm
weather she likes the bumps so your mad turns and jaffer cakes made her happy. she did feel the cold this weekend
i hope this one will be better at bumps than the last one i was pleased with the engine at the weekend sounded much better

shame about the trim tab and gps i hope to get that sorted later this week
the dealer as the trim tab in stock

see you soon dan
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nice pic rich

thanks for keeping bethany happy she all ways complains about calm
weather she likes the bumps so your mad turns and jaffer cakes made her happy. she did feel the cold this weekend
i hope this one will be better at bumps than the last one i was pleased with the engine at the weekend sounded much better

shame about the trim tab and gps i hope to get that sorted later this week
the dealer as the trim tab in stock

see you soon dan
Dan welcome to the world of second hand boats your'll find bits start to constantly fall off and go wrong from now and when they do know one wants to know you.

Anyway you should think yourself lucky esacping with a £20 anode, i need to now replace my prop after following you across some mud bank, Lord D told me you knew where you were going
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Dan welcome to the world of second hand boats your'll find bits start to constantly fall off and go wrong from now and when they do know one wants to know you.

Anyway you should think yourself lucky esacping with a £20 anode, i need to now replace my prop after following you across some mud bank, Lord D told me you knew where you were going
that makes second hand a better bet than new as bits fell off my new one
and second hand cost less than new
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Dan, I like the seating configuration.

As you know I wanted to do the same thing; a jockey at the front and a bench at the back. Well, I'm half way through my little project now - I've moved the console nearer the front. Currently saving for the new bench seat (£550!!!).



I'll be interested to see how well she performs with a couple of people on that bench seat (my worry was I wouldn’t be able to get on the plane)



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[QUOTE=timofengland] Dan, I like the seating configuration.

I'll be interested to see how well she performs with a couple of people on that bench seat (my worry was I wouldn’t be able to get on the plane)
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the 50hp will take care of that side of things
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It did make a lot of difference to the way the boat handled taking off at high revs and the handling (before you lost the anode ) so just moving the weight forward makes all the difference and of course that bench seat at the back makes it idea for his lordship and myself to sit whilst eating our lunch
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