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01 September 2006, 17:41
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Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
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I am obviously being over-sensitive about hard landings in mine!
Superb photos - I love the "low flying boat buzzes people in the water" one
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02 September 2006, 01:44
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Country: USA
Town: Chicago
Boat name: Fat Bastard
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I mean I don't think it's good for your boat. But you can usually give em some hard abuse. Have snapped a transom before but that was more from water ingress than jumping.
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05 September 2006, 08:35
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Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Sting
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Most people in their boats are out of the water much more than they may realise. When ricky and myself took our pics of a Tornado wave jumping I had no intention of making big air, it felt very normal. However they look extreme.
We gave the pics to Barnet Marine, and they have not posted them on their Web site as they do not want to endorse such behaviour!! Although will use them if customers want a view of the hull!!!
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09 September 2006, 19:27
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Town: NE
Boat name: RedGazelle
Make: Gemini GRX420 SIB
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A bit too much air.
Head on into a wake.
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09 September 2006, 19:36
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Town: Haverfordwest
Boat name: Nenya
Make: Tornado 5.1
Length: 5m +
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Now thats an awesome pic!!!! Just wish I could see the faces of the people in the background clearly
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09 September 2006, 21:14
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WOW, I wonder what the landing was like?
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10 September 2006, 09:52
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Town: NE
Boat name: RedGazelle
Make: Gemini GRX420 SIB
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Originally Posted by Rogan
WOW, I wonder what the landing was like?
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Think it was 1994 or 95, so perhaps the memories aren't quite correct, but the landing was relatively smooth. Only the radar reflector came loose. The boat stayed straight during flight and landed square on its keel in the aerated water of the wake. Had it rolled in the air then I guess that the landing wouldn't have been great.
As people have stated, when you're in the air it doesn't feel quite so high. Think the photo provided a few shocks!
Lesson is - 29kts into a 16kt wake can launch you further than you anticipate.
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10 September 2006, 12:24
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Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
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Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
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Originally Posted by Ed the Duck
Lesson is - 29kts into a 16kt wake can launch you further than you anticipate.
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I've gone over the 20kt wake of one of the Halmatic launches belonging to the company I work for - it was a fair old bump but I don't remember a sea/sky/sea visual experience looking forwards - what was creating the wake?
That is a superb photo....
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10 September 2006, 15:28
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Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
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Engine: Suzuki DT225
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Amazing picture but why don't they get the balance of boats right? Again too stern heavy - with twins the console would be better off further forward to balance the boat out a bit better.
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10 September 2006, 15:34
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Town: Southampton
Boat name: Aquaholic
Make: Ribeye
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I think if you throw any boat into a wake at that speed it will go up bow first regardless of the weight.
If theres two much weight at the front of the boat, the bow will tend to come down faster than you want...
Me and Gray found that on the way up to Littlehampton earlier this year - we had 50 litres of spare fuel in the front which kept making the bow come down into the next wave
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10 September 2006, 20:20
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Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Amazing picture but why don't they get the balance of boats right? Again too stern heavy - with twins the console would be better off further forward to balance the boat out a bit better.
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you see cod - its that attitude that gets people on here wound up with you. I would tend to believe that the RNLI's design team and the naval architecht engaged by halmatic etc know a little more about the pros/cons of moving the console forward, than you do having owned one rib for a few months. I know you own a sib too and have lots of other boating experience as you like to remind anyone who questions your credentials - but I don't believe you have ever designed a lifeboat, a rib or indeed dozens of them.
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10 September 2006, 23:38
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Jaws
Make: Gemini 4.2
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 50hp
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Originally Posted by benc
Me and Gray found that on the way up to Littlehampton earlier this year - we had 50 litres of spare fuel in the front which kept making the bow come down into the next wave
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Made for a wet and bumpy ride, proof that it was the fuel making the difference was when someone took a fancy to the fuel and nicked it over night! No spare fuel in bow on the return journey, a lot smoother and much drier ride home!
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10 September 2006, 23:41
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
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These aren't me-they were posted on iboats by Drowned Rat but they have to be my favourite wave jumping shots so far. It's a US coastguard SR5.4.
The guy taking the pics must have had some serious bottle to take his eyes off the sea ahead...
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10 September 2006, 23:44
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Town: Southampton
Boat name: Aquaholic
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I gotta get some pictures of mine out of the water now!
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10 September 2006, 23:47
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Town: Oakley
Boat name: Zerstörer
Make: Ribcraft
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Engine: Suzuki DF 140
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The problem is that the SR 5.4 is probably a work boat. I would quite happily take chances with work boats but I certainly wouldn't take chances with my own pride and joy.
Now remind me how fast did they say a Ford Transit could go !!!
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10 September 2006, 23:47
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Town: Oakley
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Originally Posted by benc
I gotta get some pictures of mine out of the water now!
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Benc if you want to do it I'd quite happily take pictures from my boat if we could sort a date out.
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11 September 2006, 00:52
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Town: Southampton
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Sounds good to me!
Not sure what im doing this coming weekend yet - theres a biboa cruise to france.. but I think I might be giving it a miss, not sure yet... got some stuff that needs to be done and going depends on me getting it done
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11 September 2006, 02:41
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Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
you see cod - its that attitude that gets people on here wound up with you. I would tend to believe that the RNLI's design team and the naval architecht engaged by halmatic etc know a little more about the pros/cons of moving the console forward, than you do having owned one rib for a few months. I know you own a sib too and have lots of other boating experience as you like to remind anyone who questions your credentials - but I don't believe you have ever designed a lifeboat, a rib or indeed dozens of them.
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No but I do understand the laws of Physics. Obviously there are drawbacks as well which is why the new boats have bow ballast tanks fitted.
Maybe I have never designed a RIB but Humber have done quite a few - plenty of those with the console far forward so it's NOT only me!!!
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11 September 2006, 07:16
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Town: Stockholm
Boat name: Osprey & Ring
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Length: 9m +
Engine: Plenty
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Osprey Viper 6,5m in Blankenberg
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11 September 2006, 20:11
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Chicago
Boat name: Fat Bastard
Make: Hurricane 440,Mark2C
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 50, Nissan 40
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Finally got our SIB back after a 9 month repair. What a bunch of BS. Anyways we are just happy to have it back. Got two boats now. Great for pictures!
Hey Nos4r2,
That SR5.4 is crazy! Thats the furthest I've seen any RIB out the water. I don't know if I would be trying that with our RIB but maybe the SIB.
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