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21 October 2009, 10:46
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"White knuckle" rides by BalticSafari
This is how it is done in Poland
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21 October 2009, 19:04
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21 October 2009, 19:19
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Certainly a lot more entertaining that Rib Rides over here if only you could get the Insurance cover in the UK.
James
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21 October 2009, 20:05
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Originally Posted by J S
Certainly a lot more entertaining that Rib Rides over here if only you could get the Insurance cover in the UK.
James
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is it? I thought that's what rib rides were all about! I fail to see why you can't get insurance in the UK for a 9 metre rib doing thrill rides with 12 seated passengers onboard. I stoped doing these rides 3 years ago when I concentrated on commercial driving but I don't think things have changed much.
I don't see much difference ( size and power to weight ratio) between that rib and the ones operated by Nauti bouy in the Solent and Jon Brooks in Margate which are obviously insured
Nice looking boat as always Andre and I really liked the safety kit, The goggles are a good touch. If that was a 9 metre Humber doing that they'd need Snorkels or Scuba tanks as well.
Cracking Video
stu
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21 October 2009, 20:47
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From the past operations iv worked at operating 10m Quinquaris Twin 200hp we were limited to 25kts and certain weather conditions ( can't remember the exact stipulations ) by insurance so wave jumping doesn't tend to happen at that speed but there is to much also the risk of liability from customers if they hurt their back etc. Also most insurance companies insist on "Rib Rides" being advertised as Sea Safaris, maybe someone currently operating can give some better advice.
James
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21 October 2009, 21:36
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You sure
How many operations was that, how many compnies did you work for? If Im correct you worked out of Aberdovey Wasn't there a rib company with a track record of hurting people or throwing boatloads of people in the water. 999 island cruises or something like that? that may well have put a local rider on your policy
For the record I am presently insured on my eightmetre 450hp jet rib to carry passengers for pleasure and i don't have a speed restriction set on me. She does 42 knots with a payload of a ton so I guess that's fast enough. to fly 12 people. I've been insuring boats for commercial purposes for the last eight years so I guess I'm still in the loop.
Try Fastnet or Bristol Channel Marine for your next policy they might be a bit more useful
these companies don't seem to be advertising there High speed rides as Sea safari's
http://www.evolutionribs.co.uk/
http://www.c2ribs.co.uk/
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...meta=&aq=f&oq=
http://www.chillisauce.co.uk/stag-we...oductid_10952/
http://www.stuartlinecruises.co.uk/rib.html
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21 October 2009, 21:49
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Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
How many operations was that, how many compnies did you work for? Was it somewhere with a track record of hurting people or throwing boatloads of people in the water.
For the record I am presently insured on my eightmetre 450hp jet rib to carry passengers for pleasure and i don't have a speed restriction set on me. She does 42 knots with a payload of a ton so I guess that's fast enough. to fly 12 people. I've been insuring boats for commercial purposes for the last eight years so I guess I'm still in the loop.
Try Fastnet or Bristol Channel Marine for your next policy they might be a bit more useful
these companies don't seem to be advertising there High speed rides as Sea safari's or claiming to be limited to 40 knots
http://www.evolutionribs.co.uk/
http://www.c2ribs.co.uk/
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...meta=&aq=f&oq=
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http://www.devon-rib-charter.co.uk/dive%20charter.html
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21 October 2009, 21:52
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If I were looking at a thrill ride in a RIB, I'd want to go alot faster than 25ks and would feel cheated if it couldn't go as fast as possible in any given Sea condition.
Nice Vid BTW!
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21 October 2009, 21:55
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Yes im aware of companies advertising as high speed rides, It was one operation in Aberdyfi North Wales and I know of another in South Wales with the same problem. They didn't have any track records of hurting anyone but there was a few cases when customers kicked up a fuss when returning after a trip about aches and pains and threatened further legal action.
Im not sure weather it was a costing issue and the guys weren't wiling to pay the premium for the high speed policy, i wasn't involved in the management side of things just operating the boats.
I know it can be done but just seems some companies have a hesitance to do more extreme rides.
James
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21 October 2009, 22:22
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Fair enough! If yousaid that in the first place it would have saved me a lot of typing!
If you ever need any advice on commercial stuff there a real good guy in Abersoch/Moirs Nerfyn called Ian Greenwood, I work for him occasionally hes also a real enthusiast and knows his stuff cos he's been there and done it.
I think his website is pennsularribs.co.uk something like that I'll find the link for you
cheers stu
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21 October 2009, 22:25
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21 October 2009, 22:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
This is how it is done in Poland
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All looks a bit limp wristed to me
We are insured commercially for alot more than 25 knots
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21 October 2009, 22:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trailer Bloke
All looks a bit limp wristed to me
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They don't want to break another transom!!!!!
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21 October 2009, 22:39
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They don't want to break another transom!!!!!
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Did they break a transom? What on (RIB/Engines) and what were they up to at the time?
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21 October 2009, 22:41
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They could try a Ferryman and have the other end fall off.
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21 October 2009, 22:41
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Quote:
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All looks a bit limp wristed to me
We are insured commercially for alot more than 25 knots
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yeah I expect people have a better time on your boats since I stopped driving for you.
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21 October 2009, 22:42
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Quote:
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All looks a bit limp wristed to me
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B@ll@cks! Thats an Oompa-Loompa Chemical Warfare insertion team - Hard As Nails, when the Chocolate Sauce hits the Fan
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21 October 2009, 22:42
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Didn't mean to cause you to have to write an essay. Yes i Know of Ian and his Rib didn't seem to go out this year must have been busier with commercial stuff. Moirs Nerfyn lol
James
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21 October 2009, 22:45
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Quote:
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They could try a Ferryman and have the other end fall off.
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Once upon a time (in The West), I met The Ferryman in person, him being a neighbour and all. And frankly, no surprises as regards The Final Outcome....
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21 October 2009, 23:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
Once upon a time (in The West), I met The Ferryman in person, him being a neighbour and all. And frankly, no surprises as regards The Final Outcome....
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Once upon a time (in The West), a Ferryman met it's maker.
Are Mr. Ferry and his merry men no longer making stringer free, self tapper specials?
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