Isle of Man run

[whitingiom]

Guys

This is sounding very good!

Son has at least 3 adult lifejackets to play with, so no problems there!

I hope the weather is OK!

Can you put a list together of who's coming by this w/e as I 'll need to talk to the petrol/diesel man.

Jon

[wavelength]

Gary - haven't even had time to look at a chart for it yet-bit stretched at the moment! Suggest we draw a line for each group and sort of see if they cross at a reasonable point-if not we will both need to hang a bit of a left and right to somewhere reasonable. What time are the conwy boats leaving?-thats going to make a difference of course. Cruising speeds are ok I would think depending on weather and how many dozen bags the boss decides are the absolute minimum for two days!!!!!! We may also be carrying Simon and Nikki who seem to assume they are going anyway.
Is that your rib near the big sailing Cat on the right as you come into the dock. We were on board Lady Devoy the carver 36 over the other side of the dock tonite. Very nice - I could be converted to life aboard one of those. the owners name is Terry if you see him in there-nicest guy you could wish to meet-taking it to spain soon.

[whitingiom]

If one group leaves from Conwy & one from Fleetwood you won't cross.

If the Conwy boys head almost due North, there's a platform in the Millom Gas Field that might be suitable? As HW is midday they'll have plenty of tide pushing them north!

Alternatively if you aim for Port St Mary you might converge with them?

Jon

[Ian]

5 boats and 17 people so far. Boats may increase by 1 or 2, poeple by anything upto 8!

Jon, I'll send you a list of people and boats etc by PM.

[DM]

Originally posted by Ian
Dave and Keith are after an armchair for the ride,

And a pipe and slippers too. Here's the tidal details for the return.

Sunday June 29th.

DOUGLAS

Fairway buoy 54 09'01N 004 27'67W

HW Liverpool 1158BST 8.4m Diff is + 5mins -2.4m @springs.


CONWY

Fairway buoy 53 17'.95N 003 55'.58W

HW Holyhead 1104BST 5.0m and 2321 5.2m Diffs for Conwy are +25mins +2.3m @ springs

Access to Marina is -/+2 hours so we need to be back at Conwy by 1300ish or maybe time it for the evening at 2100. Unless local knowledge says different.

Distance to run between buoys is 54.5NM CTS 163(M)

Dave

[Ian]

Ged, from your previous comments we should be able to recover from Conwy upto 4 hrs prior to HW. If this is the case we do not need to leave Douglas AM but could leave it until mid afternoon. Do you feel confident of recovering at 4 hours before?

Ian

[Garygee]

Hi folks

Dave, yes thats the one, their is the Cat, a 30-40 power boat then mine.

Maybe see you Sunday if your still out and its a nice night & thanks for the notice about the buoy & rocks.

As far a waypoints go, will sort somthing out. Think the Conway guys are leaving at 9.00 so depending on speed they may be their well before us. Will put a way point together with a route tonight and post but suggest we keep thing quite dynamic depending on the day etc.

Also suggest we all post the names of RIBS so we can keep a ear out for each other on route.
What speed are you guys leaving from Conway planning on so i can try and work out a meeting point. Will look at the oil field location tonight.

Mine is Tigger II, think Daves in Black Magic


Ian yes the new RIB handles great, very very different from the 4.8, took a while to get used to it but love it now. Best description is like moving from a gocart to a Merc. One fast furious and you know every bump and turn the other very laid back, smoother and more civilised .

As far as Conway goes I am sure we left HW-3 hours on Sunday and had no problems, only went down to about 10 foot under us. But suggest you give the marina a call.

Regards Gary

[Ian]

RIB name 'Llynhome' is mine.

[Garygee]

Hi folks

Well have been playing round with the plotting software and as the Conway guys are setting off an hour sooner then the Fleetwood boys their is no good point to meet up unless one or both of us deviate and add some distance to the routes.

The gas field that was given as a possible, which one their are quite a few.

Anyway whats peoples thoughts do you want to add a dog leg and meet up or just meet when we get to their.

If we do plan to meet mid way, given people doing similar speeds and given the time difference the Million Gas platform/ship looks good at 54'01N, 3'51"W. That is 55 miles from Conway & 37 miles from Fleetwood. Which gives 18 miles longer for the Conway guys, abour right for the extra hour you have.

If we do this is makes the trip from Conway approx 80 miles as opposed to 68 direct. Makes little differnece to the Fleetwood guys as almost on our direct route.

Let us know what people think but this looks the best place given the time differences, but does make the Conway trip about 12 miles longer. Their are many more options but this fits on best with the 1 hour time difference without adding a lot to either group.

Regards Gary

[narked]

Well, only a week left!
Let's hope the weather ain't too bad. Looking forward to getting out in a RIB again (over a year since my last time out, dive club's RIB hasn't been out at all over the last year). With a bit of luck someone daft..kind enough will let me have a quick drive

And surely Keith "SIB meister" Hart wouldn't mind sitting on the tubes? Surely he'd feel more at home there, and RIB tubes would be luxury compared to his usual seat!

Matt (wrestling with Microsofts ".NET" idea) Brown

[Ian]

Just arrived back from a weekend involving the Rib round Cardigan Bay, then today delivery of same Rib to Conwy in prep. for next week.
The delivery went well. The trip out yesterday didn't!
We bought a landrover last year to launch and recover. This has been great and performed well. However, it appears that this vehicle has become a mother. Five chicks in a well built nest sat atop the engine manifold!!!
Being a caring type I was all for picking them up and throwing them as I believe blackbirds are supposed to fly. It was suggested I didn't do this by many folk on the site as they may die.
It was them dying or me not boating. What could I do? R.I.P.

Only joking, I caved in and let them live. They had better be gone in two weeks though, and I told them so, otherwise.....

Gary and Dave. I suggest we meet in Douglas. Whoever arrives first waits for the others so we know everyone is accounted for.

Matt. I expect you to drive on mine. Shift work outward for sure.

[wavelength]

Hi Ian
Meeting in douglas with a check list for any stragglers sounds a good idea.
I've lost the plot (as usual). Are most camping for sat night do we know? I am organising an forageing party into No1 sons bedroom to attempt to find the tents. Not a place you would want to go into without good reason and an up to date tetanus injection.
Dave

[Ian]

Dave,
Half are camping and half are 'posh'. We're in tents, they are in the Hilton!

Those from Conwy meet at Conwy slip at 0800 approx. Remember to bring your boat insurance with you. We will leave 0900 approx (all times BST) with an ETA in Douglas 1200.
This allows the afternoon in Douglas and pitching the tents.
Saturday evening social in Douglas, waiting to hear from Whitingiom if the yachties will allow us ribsters into the YC. If not there must be a pub there with a beer garden, the weather will be stunningly hot and calm.
Sunday, early(ish) start and cruise south round the Calf of Man then up to Port Erin. Maybe anchor up here for a spot of lunch and snorkeling?
Head back round the Calf and stright back to Conwy. Arriving back at fairway approx1700. If you are going to Fleetwood don't follow the rest of us!
Hope this sort of agenda suits, but if not we can make it up when we get there.
We will all meet up at the harbour in Douglas before setting off for the town. Dave and Ged, phone the HM before leaving Fleetwood so he knows to expect you and can put us all together in the harbour. Douglas HM 01624 686628 then through a recorded message list before selecting the number to talk to a real person!

[wavelength]

Excellent job Ian - ever fancied a career move to the travel industry?
Dave

[Ian]

We haven't made this trip yet! Got a few more ideas up my sleeve, but one step at a time eh?

[whitingiom]

Of course you can come in the Yacht Club!

It was previously the Douglas Bay Motor Boat & Cruising Club, so there are plenty of motor users.

If you're feeling brave, you could try 'The Quay' - there are about 8 or 9 watering holes within a mile of the YC.......quite a challenge.

I haven't heard back from the Commodore if there's any food or entertainment on Saturday, but I suspect that the barbeque on the balcony will be going as long as it's not raining.

I've been watching the forecast - doesn't look too bad....

Jon

[Ian]

Saturday 28 June to Friday 4 July

I expect the high pressure to persist in most parts of the country right through this week, although by the end of the week the high will have moved off to the east. This will allow south to southeasterly winds to develop across the country with an area of low pressure to the west of Ireland.
So for the weekend it looks set fair with plenty of warm sunshine just about everywhere.

During the week, much of England, Wales, central and eastern Scotland will stay dry, very warm and sunny, but in the far south of England there is a chance, as it turns increasingly humid, that a few thundery showers could develop. Towards the middle of the week these storms could become more widespread and perhaps threaten most of southern England.

From midweek, the high pressure could start to decline and move away eastwards allowing more unsettled weather, with thundery showers, to push into Northern Ireland and western Scotland, whereas much of eastern Scotland and eastern England will stay dry and very warm.

This was taken from the BBC weather page http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ and looks good at this stage for the weekend. More detailed reports will be posted as we get nearer the date.

[wavelength]

Aaargh
just seen the fx for sunday on bbc tv at 1855.
great saturday
bl**dy great lo pressure on Sunday - lots of isobars!! oooo-er!

Dave

[Garygee]

Hi folks

Are kids allowed in the Yacht club?.

Ours kids are 11 & 7, Oh and the other two are 34 & 38.

Regards Gary

[whitingiom]

Gary

No problem if they are with mums & dads and are well behaved (ha ha).

There is a no smoking bar as well.

My lot are 15, 12 & 5 and they seem to manage.....

Jon