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10 September 2004, 07:45
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no it doesn't
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actually it does 60 miles x 60 minutes = 3600 devide by speed 20knots =180 minutes
i think Simon meant distance devided by speed will give you time or you could use the 6 minute rule based on your average speed, remember though some tides will be with you and some against you so need to take that into account,as will add/subtract from/to the total distance to be covered, interesting passage plan posted think you would be better using turning bearings on well charted objects on the southern side of the Island as propellors dont give much drive over land.
regards Tim
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10 September 2004, 07:51
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think you would be better using turning bearings on well charted objects on the southern side of the Island as propellors dont give much drive over land.
regards Tim
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Think they've sorted / they are sorting !!!that one Tim
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10 September 2004, 08:53
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Originally Posted by tim griffin
think you would be better using turning bearings on well charted objects on the southern side of the Island
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Rather keep mine on me trailer if its all the same
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Predicted I think is the point here. Plan the passage then execute. You can predict your finish time taking into consideration tides stopages etc using the correct formula.
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That would be a time trial then
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10 September 2004, 09:07
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That would be a time trial then
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yep you've got it Pete7
REGARDS Tim
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10 September 2004, 09:26
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Thanks tim. Will pop over and say hello next week.
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10 September 2004, 15:19
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bejaysus it's getting too complicated for me.... :)
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Originally Posted by tim griffin
actually it does 60 miles x 60 minutes = 3600 devide by speed 20knots =180 minutes
i think Simon meant distance devided by speed will give you time or you could use the 6 minute rule based on your average speed, remember though some tides will be with you and some against you so need to take that into account,as will add/subtract from/to the total distance to be covered, interesting passage plan posted think you would be better using turning bearings on well charted objects on the southern side of the Island as propellors dont give much drive over land.
regards Tim
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plus time taken to eat a couple of Mars Bars
Forgot that then didn't you Tim
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10 September 2004, 19:53
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oh bugger where is me reeds almanac must look up tables for Mars bar chomping , does it depend on height of eye ie the greater the height the quicker they go down ,a wild stab in the dark i would add 5 minutes does the same rule apply for sandwiches and if they are different types does this change the formula
best of luck with the predicted log
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10 September 2004, 20:09
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darn...thought you were going to do it .... would be nice to see a Solent win
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10 September 2004, 20:19
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would love to but am working , now talking about almanacs ever had a go of doing vertical angles with a sextant to find distance off a charted object
works with a piece of string and a ruler its true honest
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10 September 2004, 21:04
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would love to but am working , now talking about almanacs ever had a go of doing vertical angles with a sextant to find distance off a charted object
works with a piece of string and a ruler its true honest
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I believe you !!!!
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10 September 2004, 21:30
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now talking about almanacs ever had a go of doing vertical angles with a sextant to find distance off a charted object
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Now you're talking about my kind on navigation. Remind me to you all with tales of astro navigation, great circles and the like. (He he - that'll keep them out of Pompy when I'm next on duty )
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10 September 2004, 21:34
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Is it you that does them crop circles then Pete????
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10 September 2004, 21:59
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Is it you that does them crop circles then Pete????
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Tried that once a good many years ago after a good session with the lads - nearly got mown down by a bloody great combine harvester - you just don't expect them to be out at 11pm do you?
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10 September 2004, 22:27
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Beer n Crop Circles Very funny images spring to mind. No wonder the farmer tried to mow ye down for wreckin the harvest
Sir Martin of The Lower Bar has announced via telephone that the briefing is at 9.15 am.
(kinell ..that means an early trip in these wintrish conditions on Zeb )
Another one with his sextant out BTW is Martin.
Paul's whizzing something out on the pute.
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11 September 2004, 07:11
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Am i to late to enter !!!
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11 September 2004, 20:21
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You are now
That was great anyways...nice trip ended up getting a tour of the legendary Lower Bar
Cheered in the winners... heard the horror stories
Met the very nice peeps from the powerboat section of the Royal Southern.
Had nice lunch...drinkies...speeches from Sir Mark....(nice trophy for your intrepid team )
Thanks for the welcome all of you and the tour (Sir Martin & Lady Anto)
Great stories...nice Saturday.
Lovely time ...ta the organisers ....
Us
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11 September 2004, 20:22
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I believe you !!!!
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ok here is the formula and it does work trust me . take a piece of string 60cms in length at a ratio of 60:1 each cm equals one degree place string in mouth and hold ruler and string in same hand line up ruler on charted object
the height of the charted object in cm is equal to degrees look it up in the almanac tha tables are there this will now give you a rough but fairly accurate distance off said object, throw that one in when teaching the shorebased nav courses students love it , was shown that when first went to sea as a nipper, great skipper tutor on me first boat always stuck with me same as plus two minus two for recipricol bearings
regards Tim
ps going to boat show midweek as well not sure what day yet probably tues
might see you there.
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11 September 2004, 20:26
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I will try all that after a few glasses of red Ta Tim
Ah darn it...we are going to BS at the weekend..
You can go again surely ??? (Go on go on go on )
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11 September 2004, 20:31
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A great deal of technicality went into our journey....
First bearing took us towards the Hamble area...then on towards Lymington.
We were slowed up a lot there but a tip off on the phone caused us to do 180 turn and head back for the Hamble River and the Royal Southern.
We got a minor award for our efforts.
Thank you to the esteemed Committee.
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Was it bumpy and are there any pictures?
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