Scilly Isles Cruise June 7/8/9 2003 - Page 2

MarkWildey · 15 May 2003, 17:01

Brian

Have you any idea what the various "rolling start" times will be yet ?

Just so I can make my own plans for setting off from Poole.

Regards

Mark

Brian · 16 May 2003, 10:27

Mark and Julian

Very roughly the distances involved are:
Needles to Start Point/Prawle Point-84
Start Point to Lizard-60
Lizard to Wolf Rock-23
Wolf Rock to Hugh Town-20

Because we will pick up more, and slower boats, the last two legs are unlikely to average 20knots. Therefore 2 hours required.

Start Point to Lizard will take me 2.5 hours.

I guess you will do Leg 1 in under 3 hours.

So if we want to arrive at say 15.00 hours, you would start from Needles at (1500-(2+2.5+3)) = 07.30

Whaddayathink?

Julian · 16 May 2003, 10:30

Hi Brian

As long as the weather is good i think that is a reasonable time to set off. Lets hope for sunshine and flat seas to get us there quicker. Looking forward to it.

Julian

mstacey · 17 May 2003, 09:17

Quote:

Originally posted by Brian

IT IS VITAL YOU MAKE ACC. BOOKINGS ASAP

Any recomendations / contact numbers for where to stay.

I'm looking for accomadation for one. Have considered camping but like my home comforts so B&b or Hotel would be nice.

mstacey · 17 May 2003, 09:19

Quote:

Originally posted by Aging Youth
This sounds like a good trip to try. I take it that you intend to launch from Plymouth Area?

Kevin

Are you going on this trip ? If you intend to launch at Plymouth I could trail my boat down and leave from there with you ?

I'm crewless at the moment if anybody wants to join me on 'BOB' they are most welcome.

Brian · 17 May 2003, 09:31

Here are some places to start looking:

http://www.tregarthens-hotel.co.uk/
http://www.scillyonline.co.uk/accomm...l_welcome.html
http://www.scillyonline.co.uk/accomm.../bellrock.html
http://www.scillyonline.co.uk/accomm/stmarys.php

I managed to get into the Bell Rock.

mstacey · 17 May 2003, 11:10

Strewth 'Star Castle Hotel' quoted me 188 quid a night

Thankfully found a guest house that was much more reasonable

Bittentobuggery · 17 May 2003, 18:18

Stayed at the Mincarlo last year. Accomodation not brilliant but far better than some of the broom cupboards I have stayed in. Breakfast OK and Bryony Duncan, the Manager, 01720 422513, was Totty.

About 5-7 minutes around the harbour, depending on how much Viagra you have had, and the room including breakfast £ 30 ?

mstacey · 18 May 2003, 11:06

decisions decisions decisions!

Where to launch from is the question ?

I don't want to slow the larger boats down on the early legs of this trip so from digging around Mylor in Cornwall looks like its got a nice wide slip, pontoon along side so I can tie the boat up whilst I park the car and trailer.

Anybody have any local knowledge of the area ?

Mike Garside · 18 May 2003, 11:27

Martin, I presume you are going to be coming down on the morning of the 6th?

It's neaps then and high water will be at 0900. I only mention this because I don't know what launching at Mylor will be like at neaps - will there be enough water? Probabaly worth calling Mylor Yacht Club (01326 374391) and finding out.

I will be leaving St Mawes (where there is a strong possibility that there would not be enough water to launch) that morning. If you like, we could RV off St Mawes Castle and head out to the Lizard together to RV with the convoy there.

Aging Youth · 19 May 2003, 13:21

Hi Brian & Co.

I hope some of you will have seen my "E" mail. As of this morning I have been drafted for jury service which normaly lasts for 2 weeks. So sadly I am unable to attend this cruise

I look forward to seeing the results on Ribnet.

Happy cruising guys & girls
Regards

P.s. I feel sorry for any defendant whose case I am on

whats that word G***lty Me Lord!!

Brian · 19 May 2003, 15:12

No excuse, Kevin.
Piece of duff.
He, she or they are obviously guilty, otherwise they wouldn't be there would they?
Just leave the "decision" for 15 mins. for appearance sake, and then you can be off down the road like a hound.
Small tip, don't leave your boat/car combo in the court car park with the engine running.
Tends to give the game away!

jools · 19 May 2003, 21:14

OK - So I've shifted my diary around and Panther, Cath and Myself will be attending!!

Now then Hotels - B&B's.
Brian mentioned the Bell Rock - Its full

So where is anyone else staying - it would be nice if some of us at least were together!!

Anybody else trailoring down south? - Whats the plan? - Travel down on Friday and stay somewhere down there? - Again any plans from anybody else and we'll join in (traveling from Bristol)

Cheers

Jools

jools · 19 May 2003, 23:26

Just thinking about fuel - I remember this being mentioned on last years trip....

I have a 90l inboard tank and will be carrying 25l in an additional tank

Looking at the rough mileage - and knowing I use about 1l/mile

Saturday - Falmouth - Hugh Town - 70nm - 70 Liters

Sunday - Brian Mystary tour ~ 30nm - 30 Liters

So looks like I'll need about 100 Litres of fuel down there

Does that sound about right?!? - I used 102 Liters on the Brixham/Plymouth weekend! so I suppose thats about right!

Anyway - Brian - do you know who we need to contact to arrange for some fuel?

BTW - I believe The Pride of Bristol should be arriving in the area on the Saturday - I'll find out more on Wednesday night - but at least we should be able to get a cup of tea if we need one!

Now if I had 100l's worth of Gerry Cans I could use the PoB as my fuel barge - with fuel at Tescos prices.........

Jools

Mike Garside · 20 May 2003, 06:42

Glad you and Cath will be able to make it after all, Jools. I have a whole bunch of big cannisters that will carry petrol. I gathered them together in Cardiff to carry enough diesel to get me home after the SOC in March 02. Just made it! You are welcome to as many of them as you like but not sure how to get them to you.

Brian will no doubt tell you how to get fuel in Hugh Town but it is TERRIBLY time consuming. Ask Brian "Whiteshoes" who seemed to go on countless taxi trips back and forth last year.

A better plan that doesn't waste time in the Scillies may be to launch at Mylor like Martin and "Bob"the Yellow RIB. I could bring the cans over to Mylor on board Magellan Alpha and you could do a car dash from there to the nearest petrol station before you set off.

If you get to Mylor and meet me good and early on Friday there should be time to do the fuel run with sufficient time to get to the convoy RV at the Lizard. We do NOT want to keep our Pack Leader and the rest of the Angels waiting out there!

Charles · 20 May 2003, 08:55

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike Garside
to go on countless taxi trips back and forth last year.

Just a thought..... I have attempted the old taxi to the filling station routine and many taxis will simply not take fuel in jerry cans. Apparently by law they may not do this. As I said, it is worth noting.

jools · 20 May 2003, 08:57

Thanks Mike

Yep - Thats my plan at the moment - to go down with "Bob"

The "borrow your cans" sounds good too - I'd heard that it was hard work - and expensive - on the island.... How mach do your cans hold? - I assume "Bob" will be needing fuel aswell (although he has twice the size inboard tank than Panther)

Cheers
Jools

MarkWildey · 20 May 2003, 13:47

All

I have just spoken to Sibleys at St Marys and they advised that petrol is £1.10 / lt

and diesel is 40p / lt

.

As detailed in this thread petrol requires leg work as they can't supply from the pier.

They are open Monday am from 0800 and we could fuel up ( diesel ) assuming that the ferry isn't in. Although he did say that they would be happy to come down, by arrangement, on Sat or Sun if we needed.

Brian - My plan would be to fuel up first thing Monday for the trip back to Poole unless we need to be away extra early. In which case I would take fuel on somewhere on the way back.

If this scuppers in plans please let me know.

Regards

Mark
m. 07736 169033

Brian · 20 May 2003, 16:34

Mark and others.

Petrol is a bit of a pain but still possible. Diesel alongside the pier is Ok if you time it right with the HM. and Dave Sibley who controls fuel supply.(potentially blocking of the Scillonian).

Boats should be moored together in mid-harbour attached to one of the yellow HM bouys. We will check which one. Smallest boat then acts as taxi to get others to shore and after landing everybody and their luggage, rafts up with the others and "begs/bribes" passing boatee for a lift to dockside.
We will choose a bouy that doesn't dry out at low tide.

DO NOT moor up on the quay as this is reserved for local inter-island boats and for SWIFT unloading and embarkation. Local boatmen get VERY ANGRY if you block the quayside.

Diesel fueling on Monday morning should be fine as long as we don't spend too long FANNYING ABOUT. If we can get away from St. Mary's by 10.00 we can spend an hour out in the Eastern Islands before folks need to set off back to the mainland.
This should get Mark and Julian back to Lymington-ish by about 18.00 hours.

Mike Garside · 20 May 2003, 18:08

Brian, I will be bringing my tender as Di and I are spending the nights aboard. We can do the ferrying to and fro from the mooring.

Mark, just a thought on fuel. I have 2x90L strap-on diesel tanks that Alan Priddy kindly gave me on long-term loan. I could fill these in Falmouth when I fuel up there myself and transfer the contents to you in the Scillies. I have a 12 volt electric pump if you don't have one.

I think local diesel here is about 28p a litre - better than 40p. Will 180 L be enough? If not I also have 10 x 25 litre cans and I could fill some of these as well for you. I could transfer them over to you to carry when we RV off the Lizard.

If you did need to fuel on the way back - and could then avoid the handfilling exercise. Falmouth marina has diesel 24/7. Their telephone number is 01326 316620. Current price is 37p a Litre. Andy Micklewright filled there on the way back last time. Only real disadvantage is the loss of time on the return trip. Instead of cutting off the corner from the Lizard to Start Point, the diversion to Falmouth is a bit time consuming.

Jools, besides the 10 x 25 litre containers I have another 4 or 5 10 litre cans which you can borrow in addition to any of the 25 Litre ones to fill at Mylor. Does this help?