4x4 Advice - Hilux Surfs, Isuzu Troopers, Nissan Patrols - Page 2

timboli · 07 November 2005, 21:58

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Originally Posted by Hightower

I've been looking at the Mitsubishi Delica as a Tow MPV'ish vehical. Not badly priced and based on the shogun/Pajero I think. Looks cool and seats 7/8, has 4x4 and a 2.8 TD 4 cylinder engine. Check them out on Ebay Jim, not sure about extreme offroad ability though but check out :http://www.mdocuk.co.uk/forums/

Andy,might be a red heron but a mate of mine had a delicia diesel and struggled to get better then 20 mpg out of it and he didnt tow,last time I saw him,he was going to get it looked at.

Searider · 07 November 2005, 22:07

Sat in the back of a mates surf last week. Hardly any legroom at all.

Probably OK if only putting kids in the back though.

When my 1987 Range Rover dies I think I'll go out and buy another one for about £2.5k

You just have to ignore the bits falling off

Jimbo · 07 November 2005, 22:10

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Originally Posted by Searider

Sat in the back of a mates surf last week. Hardly any legroom at all.

Probably OK if only putting kids in the back though.

When my 1987 Range Rover dies I think I'll go out and buy another one for about £2.5k

You just have to ignore the bits falling off

Humm, things seem to be pointing to the Trooper - good legroom there!

I did seriously consider the rangie I found on eBay, but aside from all the abuse I'd get from being a student with a Range Rover, I decided that even if by some miracle I could afford the car (it was 10 years old, and fairly cheap!) I'd never be able to afford to maintain and run it!

Hightower · 07 November 2005, 22:20

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Originally Posted by timboli

Andy,might be a red heron but a mate of mine had a delicia diesel and struggled to get better then 20 mpg out of it and he didnt tow,last time I saw him,he was going to get it looked at.

There is a common problem these and it's to do with an EGR valve (recirculates the exhast gases for better EEM's) this valve sticks open and the engine effectivley chokes it's self to death on the exhaust. Just get him to rip it off and replace it with a blanking plate (look at EGR plate on Ebay) She'll go like a rocket after.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mitsubishi-Paj...QQcmdZViewItem

codprawn · 07 November 2005, 22:21

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Originally Posted by Jimbo

Humm, things seem to be pointing to the Trooper - good legroom there!

I did seriously consider the rangie I found on eBay, but aside from all the abuse I'd get from being a student with a Range Rover, I decided that even if by some miracle I could afford the car (it was 10 years old, and fairly cheap!) I'd never be able to afford to maintain and run it!

If you buy a Discovery or Range Rover without air suspension etc they they are dirt cheap to maintain - as long as you do the work yourself. The parts are so cheap it is amazing - especially as they are so much more robust than normal cars.

Petrol ones ARE scary to run - but you can often find them converted to LPG - the power and smoothnes of a V8 petrol with the running costs of a diesel.BARGAIN!!!

To be honest I would much rather rely on my land rover than any other vehicle - even if something went wrong I can fix it myself and the parts costs are no problem.

Rogue Wave · 07 November 2005, 22:25

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Originally Posted by timboli

Andy,might be a red heron but a mate of mine .

This smells a bit fishy to me!

Hightower · 07 November 2005, 22:39

Herons not Herrings....You Kipper

Jimbo · 08 November 2005, 00:49

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Originally Posted by Hightower

Herons not Herrings....You Kipper

Eh what sorry pardon

BADGER!!

(sorry, long story, weymouth, sailing, too much wind, pubs, etc etc)

jwalker · 08 November 2005, 01:31

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Originally Posted by Jimbo

Any Plus's on the Vauxhall?

For a few years now the Frontera has been a different vehicle to the old Isusu/Monterey.

A large vehicle for the engine size. Independent front suspension so nothing like the joggley ride of many 4x4's.
Normal mode is 2 wheel (rear) drive so saves a drop of fuel. 60mph along a potholed road gives a surprisingly good ride.

Actually, although I've owned a few Landrover vehicles and I'm still not a great fan, what you need is a disco cos you'll get a good one for 4k and the upkeep is very cheap and getting cheaper. (DIYing) You can even get replacement CV's for 40quid. If you pick up a pre-electronic 2.5TD that can further prevent big bills. Given that you're likely to be dipping it into the sea, willingly or by necessity, you don't want to be rusting big money away.

codprawn · 08 November 2005, 01:59

Actually fronteras aren't that bad - damn site better offroad than most of the Jap stuff anyway.

Jimbo · 08 November 2005, 03:44

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Originally Posted by jwalker

Actually, although I've owned a few Landrover vehicles and I'm still not a great fan, what you need is a disco cos you'll get a good one for 4k and the upkeep is very cheap and getting cheaper. (DIYing) You can even get replacement CV's for 40quid. If you pick up a pre-electronic 2.5TD that can further prevent big bills. Given that you're likely to be dipping it into the sea, willingly or by necessity, you don't want to be rusting big money away.

This is something I have considered - I'm pretty sure I've seen 7 seat discos as well - somebody will set me right!

I'll have to check out the insurance, and I'm not sure I'll get a post 1995 Disco for £4k. Anyone genned up on car auctions?

Thanks again everyone for all your helpful responses

Andy Stevens · 08 November 2005, 07:53

We forgot to talk about the land rover 101 Jimbo

You can get 20 odd of your drunk student bum mates in the back, or a matress

The winch means you dont need to go anywhere near the sea and it tows like a train.

Bit thirsty thuough lol.

Pete said you can have a go in his Trooper 3.1TD

Jono · 08 November 2005, 08:46

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Originally Posted by Andy Stevens

We forgot to talk about the land rover 101 Jimbo

You can get 20 odd of your drunk student bum mates in the back, or a matress

Pah ! Just 20? Try this with the canvas on... and it does better MPG than a 101..

... Cheaper than a similar aged Disco...Towing ability? Oh yes! Anyone fancy a tug of war?......and now available in Blue

Rodan · 08 November 2005, 09:53

How about:
http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=479&Overide=1
6WD - will pull a boat I should think!
Or:

http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=510&Overide=1

TQBoater · 08 November 2005, 10:17

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Originally Posted by Jimbo

This is something I have considered - I'm pretty sure I've seen 7 seat discos as well - somebody will set me right!

I'll have to check out the insurance, and I'm not sure I'll get a post 1995 Disco for £4k. Anyone genned up on car auctions?

Thanks again everyone for all your helpful responses

Yes you can get 7 seat Discos, and if you get a 5 seater you can get the extra seats from ebay most of the time.

Recently changed from a Vaux Frontera to a 300TDI and it's totaly different, if you couldn't see the boat in the rear mirror you wouldn't be able to tell it was there. Won't ever go back to the Vauxhall.

Jono · 08 November 2005, 10:17

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Originally Posted by Rodan

How about:
http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=479&Overide=1
6WD - will pull a boat I should think!

'tis only 4wd... and don't touch 'em with a barge pole.... I used to drive a six wheel Rangey in anger and it's a very, very scarey thing...

Good cure for constipation though...

Jimbo · 08 November 2005, 12:05

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Originally Posted by Rodan

How about:
http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=479&Overide=1
6WD - will pull a boat I should think!
Or:

http://www.witham-sv.com/infopage.php?ID=510&Overide=1

Ok, being as I'm only 20 on saturday, I don't think my insurance company would approve!

Hard enough getting insurance on a go-kart being a young male driver...

Some of the cars here look like serious bits of kit! I'm getting a good vibe from the trooper, still not entirely convinced about the Disco though!

TQBoater · 08 November 2005, 12:21

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Originally Posted by Jimbo

Ok, being as I'm only 20 on saturday, I don't think my insurance company would approve!

Best thing for 4x4 insurance is look for specalist 4x4 insurance agents cheaper and usually better cover than normal car insurance.
I always find it helps to put a woman on the policy even if they never drive it, mine goes down by £50 when I add my partner !!
Also say you have use of another car

As a guide mine is aprox £300 fully comp protected (I'm 35)

Jimbo · 08 November 2005, 12:26

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Originally Posted by TQBoater

Best thing for 4x4 insurance is look for specalist 4x4 insurance agents cheaper and usually better cover than normal car insurance.
I always find it helps to put a woman on the policy even if they never drive it, mine goes down by £50 when I add my partner !!
Also say you have use of another car

As a guide mine is aprox £300 fully comp protected (I'm 35)

Cheers for that - will see what happens if I add my mother/sister or something.

I just looked at that second Landy from Witham, the 300tdi, looks nice, but v.high mileage!

Dave Clarkson · 08 November 2005, 12:40

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Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

I used to have a Cavalier SRI and an Astra GTE before I settled down into the boring wan--r I am nowadays and those babies flew and held the road well, i hammered them and they lasted the course well!

You only had a pop at yu Dadas vectra cos you were influenced by that Ponse Clarkson

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