Accident in Abersoch Sunday Afternoon!!

Sammo · 12 July 2005, 10:24

On Sunday Afternoon, Abersoch Lifeboat and the RAF Helicopter were launched to an accident near the Old lifeboat shed in Abersoch,

A person was in the water and was climbing up the ladder on the stern of the boat.

When the person at the helm knocked the boat into gear, the person on the stern fell in the water and the proppeller went over her leg's.

I'm not certain on the extent of the injuries but to my knowledge, but from what I hear the cuts are up to her hips.

From what i hear she hasn't lost her legs but her legs are in a bad way after loosing so much blood.

Back to basics then, ALWAYS HAVE THE ENGINE OFF, WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN THE WATER.

MeMe · 12 July 2005, 10:52

......my bloody camera. The I picked up the action on"16" and arrived just minutes before the RNLI who appeared within less than 10 minutes of the Mayday shout. The helo arrived 22 minutes later from Valley - unbelievable !

The helo hovered directly above me (some 100 yrds away from the powerboat) before moving over the craft and dropping the paramedic. It was an awsome site which I only managed to capture on my phone

Well done to the boys from the RNLI and RAF - it's good to be British.

Nick Hearne · 12 July 2005, 11:10

Graham, the fact you did not have your camera or not I think you should keep these thoughts to your self! As it gives the impression that you are a ambulance chaser!
Terrible tragedy let hope she make a full recovery!
A lesson from us all to learn from!
Nick

Jono · 12 July 2005, 11:52

Meme... I have to say that it did rather come over that way.... and I know you're not an "ambulance chaser"... we leave that to all the lawyers on here...

codprawn · 12 July 2005, 12:26

Whilst to some it may seem somewhat macabre to post details of whenever there is an accident involving boats I feel that it is vital so we can all learn from the mistakes of others.

If ever there ws an example of swtiching off the engine BEFORE going anywhere near the prop then this is it!!!

Nick Hearne · 12 July 2005, 12:51

sorry

Nick Hearne · 12 July 2005, 12:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by codprawn

Whilst to some it may seem somewhat macabre to post details of whenever there is an accident involving boats I feel that it is vital so we can all learn from the mistakes of others.

How would we learn from photos on this one?

Quote:

Originally Posted by codprawn

If ever there ws an example of swtiching off the engine BEFORE going anywhere near the prop then this is it!!! .

Yes quite agree but do we need gory photos?

codprawn · 12 July 2005, 13:25

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Originally Posted by Nick Hearne

How would we learn from photos on this one?

Yes quite agree but do we need gory photos?

I didn't even MENTION photos!!!!

I am quite sure when he moaned about not having his camera it was because he wanted to take photos of our brilliant rescue services in action - NOT close ups of some poor woman with her legs half chopped away - if you want to see stuff like that you can always go to rotten.com!!!

Jon Brooks · 12 July 2005, 13:41

This is very sad and my thoughts are with this lady and her family, I hope she makes a full recovery.

Accidents do and will happen.
We all make mistakes.
These people maybe very well trained but............

The more I hear of these cases, the more I see them at weekends, the more it makes me wonder if there should be some kind of training insisted on for water users.

None of us want to see the sea over regulated but it might help.

We got RAMMED at the weekend by a PWC (I am not knocking PWC users either) we were at a stand still, when asked why he had not stopped his reply was he was not sure what he was doing it was his first time out on a PWC.

Sorry this is fast becoming a pet subject for me!

Regards

codprawn · 12 July 2005, 13:53

Couldn't agree more Jon - most of these accidents do seem to happen at peak times. I know accidents can happen to anyone but I think the biggest cause are people who aren't really used to the sea - despite what the law may think PWCs aren't true boats and the people who buy them aren't USUALLY true boaters.

Many of these "weekend" boaters are just that - for these people training is probably a good idea.

Whilst I may not have much experience of RIBs yet I have been around boats since I was about 2 years old - it's in my blood so to speak. Too many people just take to the water without a clue of tides or anything else.

Maybe they should have a basic test - ask someone to throw a bucket on a rope into the sea from a moving boat - anyone who says F**k off to the examiner passes!!!

Andy Gee · 12 July 2005, 14:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by codprawn

Whilst to some it may seem somewhat macabre to post details of whenever there is an accident involving boats I feel that it is vital so we can all learn from the mistakes of others.

Totally agree, infact one of the best Publications is the MAIB Safety Digest. If you do not know about it it basically reports on all accidents/incidents covered by them and is issued every 3mths. I have reviewed some operations after issues raised in this publication

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Andy

Shaggy · 12 July 2005, 16:44

The MAIB Safety Digest can be found on-line here:

http://www.maib.gov.uk/publications/safety_digests.cfm

Shaggy

Scary Des · 12 July 2005, 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaggy

The MAIB Safety Digest can be found on-line here:

http://www.maib.gov.uk/publications/safety_digests.cfm

Shaggy

And if you look at it you will see that most of the cases are either fishermen or commercial operators

perhaps they should have training

.....…......oh hang on, they do

Maybe these are all just accidents

Des

Andy Gee · 13 July 2005, 08:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scary Des

And if you look at it you will see that most of the cases are either fishermen or commercial operators

perhaps they should have training

.....…......oh hang on, they do

Maybe these are all just accidents

Des

Naw we dont have accidents anymore, we have incidents 'cause there is always someone to blame

jwalker · 13 July 2005, 09:33

Sammo · 14 July 2005, 17:19

There was a small 3mtr tiller steered rib around Abersoch bay last night, 2 people on board ages 17-20. The crew fell out on when the boat went slightly on it's side in a slight swell. He landed in the water with his leg's going under the boat.
He was hit by the proppeller over both leg's.

Luckily there were only minor wounds, and he could still walk. he was seen to by a first aider and told to go to the hospital to check the wounds out, luckily at the hospital out of the approx 5 cuts on one leg and 2 on the other he only needed 5 stitches.

But this still comes back to looking at what happened Sunday and could have happened to this 17 year old boy last night.

hannah · 16 July 2005, 17:04

sounds like a very painfull injury but easily done i no someone who caught there leg on our prop , but the engine off and prob out of gear - but props are obviously still sharp