Air Arms xt200

[Hightower]

Originally Posted by kerny

These are pellet guns.

In comparison with what one of our American cousins was showing me a few years ago air weapons in this country might as well be spud guns

I didn't realize that they could legally own mini guns

[kerny]

Originally Posted by Hightower

In comparison with what one of our American cousins was showing me a few years ago air weapons in this country might as well be spud guns

I didn't realize that they could legally own mini guns

I used to love these spud guns as a kid but me mam wasn't impressed when she had no spuds left over for tea, and getting whacked over me edd with them wooden scholle shoes she use to wear didn't alf hurt



Then when I got to 15 I got meself a .177 pop out gun and we all use to play quick on the draw in one of the subways in Oldham I eventually got a BSA .22 air rifle which could break a milk bottle

But I do believe air rifles these days are a lot more powerful
Tried looking for a pic of the old 177 pop out gun but can't find anything.

[Bigmuz7]

Originally Posted by kerny

But I do believe air rifles these days are a lot more powerful

All non FAC air rifles are limited to 12ft/lbs and 6ft/lbs for pistols

Anything higher than 12 requires an FAC, and there are plenty that do go much higher. Mind you even a decent 12ft/lb gun is pokey enough. As a rough guide a .22 rimfire bullet of 30 odd grains gets to about 80 ft/lbs IIRC

[kerny]

Originally Posted by kerny

Tried looking for a pic of the old 177 pop out gun but can't find anything.

Trev's Airgun Scrapbook
Found it .. it was called the Gat Gun.

[topspeed]

Are air rifles man enough to deal with a fox if at reasonably close range, say 20 yards ?

[A1an]

Originally Posted by topspeed

Are air rifles man enough to deal with a fox if at reasonably close range, say 20 yards ?

No

Unless its a rifle on an FAC

[whisper]

Originally Posted by A1an

No

Unless its a rifle on an FAC

I asked this question a couple of years ago and from memory my local firearms officer said .223 was the min

What's the situation with the fox? does it visit your garden?

[A1an]

Originally Posted by whisper

I asked this question a couple of years ago and from memory my local firearms officer said .223 was the min

What's the situation with the fox? does it visit your garden?

There is no legal minimum calibre for fox control, your FLO is playing God by telling you otherwise, I regularly shoot foxes with a .22 rim fire with subsonic bullets.

[topspeed]

Originally Posted by whisper

I asked this question a couple of years ago and from memory my local firearms officer said .223 was the min

What's the situation with the fox? does it visit your garden?

Yes, it is in the garden, and fouling all over the place, complete pain. Any suggestions ?

[whisper]

Originally Posted by topspeed

Yes, it is in the garden, and fouling all over the place, complete pain. Any suggestions ?

Ok, get an old pair of socks and wear them for the day, then lay them in the garden where the fox is doing it's doo!

I heard this on the radio a couple of years ago and told my neighbour and its worked great for him

Sounds a bit silly but it works

[kerny]

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[Bigmuz7]

Originally Posted by A1an

There is no legal minimum calibre for fox control

Some will disagree with that .. although I wouldnt .. I personally think the criteria is that you have enough power to do it safely and get a clean kill, which certainly excludes low power weapons, and less experienced shooters IMO

[Glow]

I have permission to shoot fox in a reasonably enclosed area with a .17hmr. I really wouldn't advocate using an air rifle, even a FAC variant.

Shotguns are a good alternative though with plenty of stopping power but less risk of over penetration and ricochets.

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by topspeed

Yes, it is in the garden, and fouling all over the place, complete pain. Any suggestions ?

A humane fox trap.

You can always kill it after it's trapped if you need to.

[Glow]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

A humane fox trap.

You can always kill it after it's trapped if you need to.

When wouldn't you need to?

[Nos4r2]

Personally I would, they're vermin. Some people are a bit fluffier than me though.

[kerny]

Poor little fox be a good chap leave it some glacier mints

[Bigmuz7]

Originally Posted by kerny

Poor little fox be a good chap leave it some glacier mints

Certainly .. minty flavoured C4 ones

[kerny]

Originally Posted by Bigmuz7

Certainly .. minty flavoured C4 ones

Think that a "save the poor little fox" thread would be in order with you lot

[Festinghouse]

lancs police told me that they didnt really like fox's being shot with shotgun, but if i had to then i had to use 3"magnums with the biggest shot size available.