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29 September 2005, 15:36
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Lets evaluate the picture........
...in a little more detail. Surgical smock, collar, nice looking hands (not a stinky fisherman). Could be an RSPCA man - might not - Dog does not look at all distressed or wet ! No blood ! So why ?
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29 September 2005, 15:41
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And quite rightly too!
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Agreed.
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29 September 2005, 15:42
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Looks like a Crufts winner, not a bit of shark bait!
Fake I say
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29 September 2005, 16:18
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Surely that hook would pull straight out with a big dog dragging through the water? yep I'd say fake as well. (at least I damn well hope so)Before we congratulate ourselves too much I remember seeing a heated debate on other countries animal welfare issues and a Spaniard resolutely defending bullfighting, all was going well until he came up with-
"I see you have a Royal society for the prevention of cruelty to animals, but only a National society for the prevention of cruelty to children, why is that?"
Ouch!
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29 September 2005, 16:52
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before this gets too debated, please look it is actually on the rspca website, and am sure they've got their facts right - doesnt make it any nicer i know
http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/Sate...t&pg=sharkbait
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29 September 2005, 17:20
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Why would the RSPCA use a fake picture?
IMHO, If a dog were rescued then the first thing they would do is get it to a vet and clean it up. The last person to pose with the exploited dog would be the fisherman!
Anyway, I've sent an enquiry to the RSPCA asking them to clarify the circumstances of the picture.
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29 September 2005, 17:21
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Well.....
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Originally Posted by Richard B
Anyway, I've sent an enquiry to the RSPCA asking them to clarify the circumstances of the picture.
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.......done, with luck it will clear the whole thing up.
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29 September 2005, 17:52
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Have a look here:
http://www.seashepherd.org/news/media_050818_1.html
Not nice at all, ive signed up.
Shaggy
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29 September 2005, 18:09
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Now the picture makes sense... he's at the vets after being rescued. So if someone's rescued him and had the decency to take him to the vets, why the feck aren't the authorities taking any interest ? ...and at the same time why aren't we criminalising some of the barbaric practices closer to home?
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29 September 2005, 18:33
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I suspect that the photo was taken at the RSPCA or a vet's and that the Dog was sedated and the wound cleened and prepped for removal.
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29 September 2005, 23:59
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.......point, I thought it but didn't think to comment. P D - shut the duck up - you have no room what so ever to speak, it's your kind who we really should stand together against. Do I need to troll up countless threads in which you advocate hunting (ducks, pheasants) etc. SHUT IT
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Hold on a minute!!!
Whilst I would NEVER indulge in hunting you must realise there is a big difference between a quick - clean - kill for something that will be eaten and needless cruelty for fun.
I know plenty of people who hunt who have far more respect for the countryside etc than most of the so called do gooders ever will.
What is PD doing that is any worse than someone who goes to Teco and buys a leg of lamb or a Turkey at Christmas etc.
I could much easier shoot a human being than an animal but I am NOT a veggie and never will be unless I had to kill something myself. ANYONE who eats meat is JUST as bad as PD and his like!!!
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30 September 2005, 00:50
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I was just about to post - saying the photo looked fake - but im afraid not.
http://www.30millionsdamis.fr:80/FR/...tit_format.wmv
here you see video footage of the dog at the vets to have the hook removed.
Dont get me wrong I dont aprove of animal cruelty (except sky rat termination) but where do you draw the line...
Is it not cruel to stick a live maggot on a hook - what about a rag worm - no - ok a small fish - stilll not cruel - a rat, maybe a chicken would be cruel, what about a rabbit - cute and cudly enough to be cruel yet.
is it only cruel if the animal is fluffy and qute - who decides where to draw the line...
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30 September 2005, 00:53
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Originally Posted by roycruse
I was just about to post - saying the photo looked fake - but im afraid not.
http://www.30millionsdamis.fr:80/FR/...tit_format.wmv
here you see video footage of the dog at the vets to have the hook removed.
Dont get me wrong I dont aprove of animal cruelty (except sky rat termination) but where do you draw the line...
Is it not cruel to stick a live maggot on a hook - what about a rag worm - no - ok a small fish - stilll not cruel - a rat, maybe a chicken would be cruel, what about a rabbit - cute and cudly enough to be cruel yet.
is it only cruel if the animal is fluffy and qute - who decides where to draw the line...
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It IS difficult I agree but the day I see a guide maggot for the blind.....
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30 September 2005, 09:02
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Funny...........
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Originally Posted by codprawn
It IS difficult I agree but the day I see a guide maggot for the blind.....
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.......LOL
This thing is about P D is that he is such a crap shot he has a tendency to wing most stuff which his rancid, lecherous and foul smelling dogs then tear to pieces in a frennzy.
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30 September 2005, 09:07
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well spotted Olly !
As the owner of three dogs I've forwarded this to a number of canine sites to up the petition numbers .
By the way Codprawn , certain types of maggots can be used to debride rotton flesh , in the treatment of neglected wounds !
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30 September 2005, 11:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MeMe
..... his rancid, lecherous and foul smelling dogs then tear to pieces in a frennzy.
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I’m sure that describing PD dogs in this fashion is a form of animal cruelty you should be ashamed animals can be very self-conscious you know Des
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30 September 2005, 14:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MeMe
his rancid, lecherous and foul smelling dogs then tear to pieces in a frennzy.
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As you will note from the attached photo, Graeme, my dog has more class, good looks and breeding than a Scouse peasant-made-good like yourself could possibly hope to aspire to. Now sod off and stop fishing.
ps. is my invite still on in October for the shoot you're organising for your Cypriot clients?
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30 September 2005, 17:09
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i am an extreme dog lover , and i am also appalled at what these people are doing!
i just wish there was more that could be done to stop it
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30 September 2005, 17:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hannah
..... just wish there was more that could be done to stop it
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You could stop the third world being so poor that they need to or you could boycott them until they stop Des
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30 September 2005, 17:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scary Des
You could stop the third world being so poor that they need to or you could boycott them until they stop Des
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God I wish the world was that simple!!!
Spain and Korea aren't THAT poor!!!
And why should being poor make you hurt animals???
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