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21 June 2006, 12:29
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WHOA!!! Now there is a hot potato! Don't say that to anybody in the U.S. Marine corps, other any other branch of the U.S. military for that matter, a touchy subject for sure! A sure fire way to start a long debate being as both countries exhibit a lot of pride in their respective military histories/armed services, I would avoid discussion on this like the plague... Comments Cod?
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I think I better keep quiet - still as you are asking.....
The major mistakes the Yanks make time and time again is to underestimate the enemy and to rely too heavily on equipment and technology.
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21 June 2006, 13:11
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The major mistakes the Yanks make time and time again is to underestimate the enemy
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I think we have suffered from that as well, we dont seem to understand the culture and where these people are coming from. the times we live in i guess
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21 June 2006, 13:29
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I think we have suffered from that as well, we dont seem to understand the culture and where these people are coming from. the times we live in i guess
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This has ONLY happened since a certain Mr Blair came into power!!! We USED to get on great with the Arab countries.
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21 June 2006, 15:13
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Codders,
You might want to ask them that, our support for Israel has at times made diplomacy challenging, and going back further we did actually have a good deal to do with the creation of Israel, post "Laurence od Arabia" middle east relations are complex to say the least.
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21 June 2006, 16:01
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I will stand behind the US Coastguard anyday. They are extremely well trained. Did anyone watch what they did in Hurricane Katrina ? They saved literally hundreds of lives. However, please apreciate that that most Americans, acknowledge that Britain has historically, and still has, superior military, police and special forces compared to the rest of the world. Particularily Sir David Stirling's bunch.
So thank your lucky arse and be a little humble.
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I have seen some video footage of the training they go through at Cape Disappointment, amazing!!
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21 June 2006, 18:59
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Codders,
You might want to ask them that, our support for Israel has at times made diplomacy challenging, and going back further we did actually have a good deal to do with the creation of Israel, post "Laurence od Arabia" middle east relations are complex to say the least.
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I lived all over the Middle East and most of my family worked there so I am speaking from experience.
Britain has tried in the past to distance itself a little from the whole Israel/Palestine problem unlike the americans who support them 100% wether they be right or wrong.
I USED to admire Israel a hell of a lot but lately they seem to be worse than the Arabs. Plenty of people in Israel feel the same so it's not just me!!!
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21 June 2006, 22:18
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This getting a bit racist isn't it? Who's next on the list after the Yanks, Israelis and Arabs then?
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21 June 2006, 22:26
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This getting a bit racist isn't it? Who's next on the list after the Yanks, Israelis and Arabs then?
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No, Codders is talking about world governments not races. There's a difference.
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22 June 2006, 01:46
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No, Codders is talking about world governments not races. There's a difference.
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Yes a MASSIVE difference!!! Just becuase I hate what some leaders are doing to this world doesn't mean I hate the people in those countries!!!
If that was the case I would hate Britain the most because what I think of Blair is unprintable!!!
As I have said many times Britain is far closer to the Yanks than we will ever be to the Europeans - except Italy of course - they are great!!!
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23 June 2006, 03:37
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As I have said many times Britain is far closer to the Yanks than we will ever be to the Europeans - except Italy of course - they are great!!! [/QUOTE]
I have to agree with you Cod, My personal belief is that there is a lot of British pounds and American dollars being made right now due to that close relationship... by a select few..
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23 June 2006, 11:44
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"The major mistakes the Yanks make time and time again is to underestimate the enemy and to rely too heavily on equipment and technology"
well not every bodys a Boater, and some find them selfs in over thare head,
don't think it has any thing to do with what country thare from.
we seem to have a good pile of skilled boates like it or not, thay would be the ones that kept yous for speakin something else.
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well not every bodys a Boater, and some find them selfs in over thare head,
don't think it has any thing to do with what country thare from.
we seem to have a good pile of skilled boates like it or not, thay would be the ones that kept yous for speakin something else.
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Like This.
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23 June 2006, 12:20
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than again did see some film on some youths at a soccer game, at a hostin country, all drunk, smashin other poeples stuff, beatin up on smaller, older, and helpless ones, chantin noise like "if it wern't for us yous would be skeakin German"
not a good display, and not the truth eather.
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23 June 2006, 12:29
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Now Tony Blair has stated that he is going to crack down on crime and give meaningful prison sentences we shouldn't see anymore of that.
He said that with a straight face on Sky news this morning.
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23 June 2006, 13:06
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thare be Jerks from every whare, Yanks, UK, Arab, or ware ever.
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23 June 2006, 13:52
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Originally Posted by fast fred
"The major mistakes the Yanks make time and time again is to underestimate the enemy and to rely too heavily on equipment and technology"
well not every bodys a Boater, and some find them selfs in over thare head,
don't think it has any thing to do with what country thare from.
we seem to have a good pile of skilled boates like it or not, thay would be the ones that kept yous for speakin something else.
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Do you ever here British people saying that if it wasn't for us YOU would be speaking something else? It works both ways and attitudes like that are not on!!!
It was a JOINT effort - not only Britain and the US but all the Commonwealth countries such as Canada and Australia - even the Russians had a big part to play!!!
That is assuming I have understood your version of English......
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23 June 2006, 15:04
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the first time I ever hear "if it was not for us..." was on the tube, bunch of drunks at a soccer game, Sayin it, guess ware thay were from, not from hear.
perhapes you mite tell the real Version to the youth of your country, ya not a speller my self, good thing i don't have to spell my way out of the bay,
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23 June 2006, 15:12
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the first time I ever hear "if it was not for us..." was on the tube, bunch of drunks at a soccer game, Sayin it, guess ware thay were from, not from hear.
perhapes you mite tell the real Version to the youth of your country, ya not a speller my self, good thing i don't have to spell my way out of the bay,
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Maybe you shouldn't judge this country by a few drunken soccer hooligans???
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23 June 2006, 16:09
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I'm not, did sound like that was bein said hear, the (are thay all like that?),
meat heads are meat heads, seems to be, eveyware. they are fun to watch.
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23 June 2006, 16:15
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We do have football hooligans and it seems people are now trying to do something about this but thankfully gangs are not ruling the streets as they seem to in America. Gang life seems to be a massive thing in the US or is that just how I understand it from the media?
I think I'd rather have football hooligans wanting a fight once a week than gangs pointing guns at each other!
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