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Old 18 July 2012, 16:09   #21
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Remember your first Aid kit is just to patch somebody up, persevere life till the big boys/girls arrive...depending on your cruising range is how much you need... in some areas you might get better response at sea than on land!

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Old 18 July 2012, 16:12   #22
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Certainly sounds a good idea, but........

High voltage electricity, seawater all around, and no good if you are alone (unless you are james bond like in Casino Royale!)

But as you say they are certainly lifesavers.
i wasn't serious - i think the cheapest ones are about £1000! Interestingly, having spent all day attending a company first aid refresher a couple of months ago, the doctor then gives us the good news that even with good cpr the percentage of people who survive cpr is incredibly small. I was quite depressed having taken reams of notes! :face palm:
(with defib it's a lot higher, we have them in the office and the're designed for an idiot to use them)
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i wasn't serious - i think the cheapest ones are about £1000! Interestingly, having spent all day attending a company first aid refresher a couple of months ago, the doctor then gives us the good news that even with good cpr the percentage of people who survive cpr is incredibly small. I was quite depressed having taken reams of notes! :face palm:
(with defib it's a lot higher, we have them in the office and the're designed for an idiot to use them)
Yep the chances are not good.

IIRC went through a refresher course last year and it was something like 2% without CPR, 15% without defib and CPR only, and 25% with Defib. and that all depended if you you got it activated within about 4 mins!

Ours are pretty idiot proof, 2 pads, whack them on and the machine does the rest. It will tell you if needed to shock etc, and again IIRC if there is no heart activity at all, it will not shock as no point.

The other post about the unit not being able to function well on a boat makes sense, and I suppose it goes the same for Rescue helicopters?

Never knew about the cost though, as have not had to buy one.

Good discussion about 1st aid and what you need though, Am all in favour of the comments about keeping a cool head, and getting 1st aid courses.
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The other post about the unit not being able to function well on a boat makes sense, and I suppose it goes the same for Rescue helicopters?
No, SAR helos carry very high tech defib kits. They also have delimited wet and dry areas for casualty treatment.
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i wasn't serious - i think the cheapest ones are about £1000!
You can get a household one for as little as £600.

We sell kits with standard bits in, but 90% of our first aid sales are bespoke. If you specify the kit yourself then you know what you have to work with and you can be sure it matches your skill level.
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think that'd be better IN the local where the brandy is handy
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Think a lot depends on how remote an area your going to be operating in and what your likely to be doing ,
I go for a couple of large ambulance/ field dressings for any major injurys or amputations from the propeller then just a basic first aid kit or another much smaller kit so the large one doesent get disturbed or wet with the sticking plasters and antiseptic wipes ect for the skinned knuckles ect
perhaps one of those £8.00p pocket masks thrown in for good measure ,
If your using your boat or landing on sandy beaches an eye bath/wash is not a bad idea and a small sachet of vinegar for jellyfish stings .

If your single handed ,,a small mirror so if you face plant by yourself at least you can straighten your teeth up or see what damage you have done .
And as was said earlier in the thread better than nothing but foil blankets are not much use on a fast open boat best have a bag type .
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Have good experience with these boxes to store materials spoken about in this topic:
Peli Cases
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Peli cases are superb, as are the slightly cheaper Storm cases.
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CPR on a RIB

I absolutely applaud the interest shown in administering CPR on a RIB.

However has anybody done it for real or practised it - how did you get on?
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I absolutely applaud the interest shown in administering CPR on a RIB.

However has anybody done it for real or practised it - how did you get on?
my crew did it on a Sea Rider 4 over the tubes mouth to mouth - whilst I flew the boat up the beach after dragging a dinghy sailor unconscious from water...lucky chap!

We had ambulance arriving as he was carried to road way...so the pros took over ...
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CPR on a RIB.

However has anybody done it for real or practised it - how did you get on?
We have done it in some very tight places, but not the deck of a RIB.

Resus never takes place like in the training videos, always up a staircase or round the back of somewhere. A RIB would be no different, quality compressions and in the case of drowning 5 rescue breaths before you start.
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If single handed or your crew is up to something else and you are the driver in a big sea you could always try the old lifeboat trick of driving and giving the casualty a pump every now and again with your foot in the back
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