Common Sense Prevails!!

ashbypower · 20 March 2008, 17:02

Ahh Sense at last HERE

codprawn · 20 March 2008, 17:40

Great - but why did they want to tamper in the first place and how much did all the consultants fees cost the tax payer???

Nos4r2 · 20 March 2008, 20:11

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Originally Posted by the thieving gits in no 10

Mr. Salter who is the Labour spokesman for angling, said that he remained committed to the principle of a rod licence for all forms of recreational fishing

It's good news but I think it's a sop to win votes and we'll get shafted after an election if they get back in. Too little too late.

ian parkes · 20 March 2008, 21:50

We the british ask for everything we get , from the polltax to this . If every one just put 2 fingers up they could never inforce it .
the only answer we have at present is to go live abroad .

I bought a sea angling magazine last week , to try and get some some more info on why I can't catch anything , and all the anglers seem to to say take only what you can eat and put fish back if they are small or heven't spawned etc .

Bigmuz7 · 20 March 2008, 22:36

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Originally Posted by ian parkes

the only answer we have at present is to go live abroad .

As a business owner, its people like me.. in the main.. and I'll argue the point if anyone wants !! who fund GB Plc on top of the tax payer.. but I get no surprise at how many people I constantly hear of, who want to leave. This counrty is placing ever higher demands of the contributors to the treasury.. the bubble is about to burst IMO.

Nos4r2 · 20 March 2008, 23:20

I think we need to be careful or the thread will get too political.

ian parkes · 20 March 2008, 23:31

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Originally Posted by Bigmuz7

As a business owner, its people like me.. in the main.. and I'll argue the point if anyone wants !! who fund GB Plc on top of the tax payer.. but I get no surprise at how many people I constantly hear of, who want to leave. This counrty is placing ever higher demands of the contributors to the treasury.. the bubble is about to burst IMO.

Ditto , there is little incentive for me anymore .

ian parkes · 20 March 2008, 23:48

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Originally Posted by Nos4r2

I think we need to be careful or the thread will get too political.

Aint that the problem everywhere Mat . as soon as someone says anthing its too Political , racist , sexist etc etc .

If it were about a government tax on boats could we discuss that , or would it become to political , so we have to be quiet and get shit on again .

This is about yet another tax , leisure fishing tax to be exact , it has nothing to do with conserving fish .
same as gas guzzler tax has nothing to do with green issues , or speed cameras to do with safety or speed .etc etc . But as long as they can keep small groups running about like headless chickens discussing the rights and wrongs of the particular peice of legislation (tax) that effects them , the nation as a whole loses sight of whats really going on .

Poly · 21 March 2008, 00:11

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Originally Posted by ian parkes

Aint that the problem everywhere Mat .

not everywhere - at www.wtf.com , where our benevolent dictator is bound to redirect this thread eventually most things are OK.

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If it were about a government tax on boats could we discuss that ,

I expect that might be tolerated a bit longer - if you search red diesel you will find more than one thread...

Bigmuz7 · 21 March 2008, 00:21

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Originally Posted by Polwart

www.wtf.com where our benevolent dictator is bound to redirect this thread eventually

That would be a sad day because I and Ian are not 'ranters' just expressing an opinion.. which I'm sure is echoed by many

ian parkes · 21 March 2008, 01:02

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Originally Posted by Polwart

not everywhere - at www.wtf.com , where our benevolent dictator is bound to redirect this thread eventually most things are OK. I expect that might be tolerated a bit longer - if you search red diesel you will find more than one thread...

well i would guess that far more of us fish than have diesel boats , so i would argue this subject should be tolerated .

if a subject is getting constructive responses opinions and argument then it should be left alone . hell there has been enough subjects discussed on here where members have got really angry and insulting with each other without it getting moved . There are also others who just don't bother any more and thats a shame .

John Kennett · 21 March 2008, 08:04

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Originally Posted by ian parkes

if a subject is getting constructive responses opinions and argument then it should be left alone .

It will be. It's quite a big "if" though!

When it degenerates into general moaning about how hard done by we all are, or how much better the country could be run if only x y or z happened, then there are more appropriate places for the discussion. Simple.

This thread took just four posts to go from news that the proposed fishing tax has been dropped, to this:

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We the british ask for everything we get , from the polltax to this . If every one just put 2 fingers up they could never inforce it . the only answer we have at present is to go live abroad .

We may have different definitions of "constructive responses opinions and argument" . . .

Has anyone here joined www.wtf.com yet? It's not the RIBnet naughty step, just a better place for this sort of thing.

John

John

Kernow Buoy · 21 March 2008, 10:24

Had a holiday in florida in October and had to buy a fishing licence, cost $33 for a weeks permit so not cheap. Boat facilities of course were superb, free slips, parking, showers, barbeque/picnic area, playground, etc. Surely it would be just the same over here

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ian parkes · 21 March 2008, 16:45

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Originally Posted by Kernow

Had a holiday in florida in October and had to buy a fishing licence, cost $33 for a weeks permit so not cheap. Boat facilities of course were superb, free slips, parking, showers, barbeque/picnic area, playground, etc. Surely it would be just the same over here

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What free slips showers etc ? or just £33 for a week .

Sorry John I didn't mean to bring things down , as you say we all have different definitions of constructive responses , opinion and argument .

Kernow Buoy · 21 March 2008, 17:29

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Originally Posted by ian parkes

What free slips showers etc ? or just £33 for a week .

Ian, could use all the facilities for free, but had to buy a licence to fish, really good facilities but not as good as the Scillies, I had my own tour guide included

Limey Linda · 21 March 2008, 17:38

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Originally Posted by Kernow

Ian, could use all the facilities for free, but had to buy a licence to fish, really good facilities but not as good as the Scillies, I had my own tour guide included

All states in the USA charge a large amount for non-resident hunting and fishing licenses. For example the annual license fee for saltwater fishing in Florida, for a resident is only $17.00.

ian parkes · 21 March 2008, 18:20

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Originally Posted by Kernow

Ian, could use all the facilities for free, but had to buy a licence to fish, really good facilities but not as good as the Scillies, I had my own tour guide included

i bet you didn't have your own personal captain like i did on a rib trip to Scilly

So what did you catch then

so from what Limey says i undersand that fishing tax is just for tourists , a way of paying for all the facilities ? thats fair enough , something we need here i think .

oops there goes my opinion again ,

Kernow Buoy · 21 March 2008, 18:55

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Originally Posted by ian parkes

i bet you didn't have your own personal captain like i did on a rib trip to Scilly

So what did you catch then

so from what Limey says i undersand that fishing tax is just for tourists , a way of paying for all the facilities ? thats fair enough , something we need here i think .

oops there goes my opinion again ,

Add up all the business rates charged to tourist business's in Cornwall and you'd be amazed at the total, I pay over £1000.

Limey Linda · 21 March 2008, 19:29

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Originally Posted by Kernow

Add up all the business rates charged to tourist business's in Cornwall and you'd be amazed at the total, I pay over £1000.

How much of your 1000 quid goes towards providing facilities that will promote tourism and thus your business?

Kernow Buoy · 21 March 2008, 20:50

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Originally Posted by Limey Linda

facilities that will promote tourism

Thats hard to answer, how far do you go, you could include road improvements for instance but I don't see any difference between our roads and the rest of the UK, lifeguard facilities come from the public purse but ad campaigns etc run by local tourist boards are funded by paid memberships.