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15 October 2012, 18:03
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Crazy Yachtswoman.
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15 October 2012, 18:26
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Originally Posted by Mollers
Very sad.
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Very Sad or Crazy?
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15 October 2012, 18:31
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That article is so full of cobblers and cock ups you couldnt take any of it as fact. And I wouldnt like to pass judgement on her judgement without the real facts.
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15 October 2012, 18:32
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Selfish and stupid to ignore everyones advice and put all the rescue services at risk due to her impatience. I hope she is ok, but fear the worst, looking at the pieces they have found, the fibreglass bits look as though they might be structural.
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15 October 2012, 18:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
Very Sad or Crazy?
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Crazy action, sad outcome.
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15 October 2012, 18:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rokraider
I hope she is ok, but fear the worst... (
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Big chunks of wreckage now being found on local news.
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15 October 2012, 18:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martini
That article is so full of cobblers and cock ups you couldnt take any of it as fact. And I wouldnt like to pass judgement on her judgement without the real facts.
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Most of it concurs with what has just been broadcast on BBC local news.
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15 October 2012, 19:43
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Why would anyone with little experience go to sea in an unfamiliar boat at 18:30 solo and go around lands end.
Looking at the video I would of thought she would be sipping champagne
does not make sense or does it......
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15 October 2012, 19:47
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Why would anyone let her, you'd have the broker would have tipped off the coastguard he they were worried.
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15 October 2012, 20:14
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Originally Posted by thomas
Why would anyone let her, you'd have the broker would have tipped off the coastguard he they were worried.
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If an 18 yer old bought a Ferrari after passing test, same rules apply. You can't police stupidity or you become a nanny state.
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15 October 2012, 20:21
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My guess is that there's a fairly tragic back-story to this. I doubt it was an accident.
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15 October 2012, 21:04
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With willk on this. More to it...I'm no sailor, but think the boat in the right hands is capable...but the married last week thing....etc..more going on there than an accident I feel. :-(
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15 October 2012, 21:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
My guess is that there's a fairly tragic back-story to this. I doubt it was an accident.
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I agree.
I know the broker, he'd strongly advised against the trip. Also, he didn't know that she left Fal. on Saturday, he'd sent her to a sailing school on Friday and probably hoped that they'd talk some sense into her.
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15 October 2012, 22:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterM
With willk on this. More to it...I'm no sailor, but think the boat in the right hands is capable...but the married last week thing....etc..more going on there than an accident I feel. :-(
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But what did she have to gain, I mean fair enough marry the guy then put him on the boat, claim the insurance - but why put herself at risk ?
Relates to that Jet Ski thread running, just goes to show its not just eBay buyers who can be careless. Can happen at reputable brokers too.
Also relates to that "roadworthy trailer" thread, where its being debated if the seller would be responsible in the event of an incident. Would the same legality apply in cases such as this ?
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15 October 2012, 22:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards
Also relates to that "roadworthy trailer" thread, where its being debated if the seller would be responsible in the event of an incident. Would the same legality apply in cases such as this ?
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No there is specific legislation on road vehicles. Nothing equivalent for boats AFAIK. In any case I could sell you a perfectly road worthy car without giving any consideration to your ability or legality to drive it. In boats where there is no official standard then I don't think you can expect a dealer to do anything and one who advises on appropriate training is going above and beyond.
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15 October 2012, 22:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards
But what did she have to gain, I mean fair enough marry the guy then put him on the boat, claim the insurance - but why put herself at risk 7
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Look at the guy in the canoe.....
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15 October 2012, 23:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterM
Look at the guy in the canoe.....
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But that's my point, he did that so the wife old claim the insurance. In this case its him that has the cash, so he'd need to be the one on the boat ?
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15 October 2012, 23:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL
If an 18 yer old bought a Ferrari after passing test, same rules apply. You can't police stupidity or you become a nanny state.
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True but our would is different, lives are put at risk looking for people at sea.
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15 October 2012, 23:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thomas
True but our would is different, lives are put at risk looking for people at sea.
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1. Your argument seems to assume a rational appreciation of the risk involved.
2. Your argument probably overstates the risk to rescue services - the level of risk to rescue services should be carefully managed.
3. Your argument probably underestimates the risk to the general public of putting an inexperienced driver in a very powerful car.
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16 October 2012, 07:31
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The kid and the Ferrari argument is a bit out of date now as young people are finding it harder and harder to get insurance even on very modest cars.
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