Defender Station Wagon TD5 - Page 10

Simon B · 28 June 2005, 16:58

Codders,

What tyres do you have on your Landrover, I've got some slimmish 750 R16 radials on at present but were considering changing them to something better for beach launching - any ideas?

Jono · 28 June 2005, 17:22

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Originally Posted by Simon B

Codders,

What tyres do you have on your Landrover, I've got some slimmish 750 R16 radials on at present but were considering changing them to something better for beach launching - any ideas?

Do you want to stick with stock rims, or splash out on new rims too?

"proper" sand tyres are good for that and not much else...... whatever you buy will be a compromise. An aggressive tread pattern is not the most suitable for soft sand........

This is what a specific "sand pattern" tyre looks like...

peteb · 28 June 2005, 19:35

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Originally Posted by Simon B

Codders,

What tyres do you have on your Landrover, I've got some slimmish 750 R16 radials on at present but were considering changing them to something better for beach launching - any ideas?

You need Michelin XS or XSF Tyres 7.50R16 for perfect sand use according to the brochure. it will give you performance wise the following out of 5, 5 being best, I have listed some of their other options for 90's and 110's :-

Sand - 5
Rocks - 3
Unmade Roads - 4
Highway - 1
Off Road - 3
Snow - 1

General Grabber 235/85R16
Sand - 3
Rocks - 2
Unmade Roads - 3
Highway - 5
Off Road - 3
Snow - 4

Michelin XPC 205R16 (NOT for 110)
Sand - 3
Rocks - 2
Unmade Roads - 3
Highway - 4
off Road - 2
Snow - 4

Michelin ZXL 7.50R16
Sand - 3
Rocks - 2
Unmade Roads - 4
Highway - 1
Off Road - 1
Snow - 4

Sand = Loose or compact sand, rocks possible
Rocks = Solid Rock strewn with boulders/stones
Unmade Roads = Dirt or gravel
Highway = Normal tarmac road
Off road = Mud & grass
Snow = Compact snow and ice

Hope this helps.

peteb · 28 June 2005, 19:41

Well had the waxoyling done, reminds me of the old 'Brut advert' splash it all over

I think they put their probes in places that you would never have thought of, I am sure that the vehicle is a lot heavier now, but thanks for the advice re NOT parking it on the driveway, there are still a few drops of the oil dripping off. I hope it does some good, It can't do any damage anyway I wouldn't have thought.

Off to get my Roof Rack tomorrow, what a rip off price they are roof rack & ladder code RTC8161A / STC50417, Labour to fit £196.00, PARTS £384.00, TOTAL £507.00 + VAT. Can anyone tell me what is so difficult about fitting a roof rack, is it not just like the Mechano No 4 set?

Please advise me if it is something I could do myself. Thanks

codprawn · 28 June 2005, 23:04

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Originally Posted by Simon B

Codders,

What tyres do you have on your Landrover, I've got some slimmish 750 R16 radials on at present but were considering changing them to something better for beach launching - any ideas?

Jono is right - proper sand tyres are wide and almost bald!!!

The skinny standard Avon Rangemasters are one of the best general purpose tyres there is - but not so good on sand.

Depends what mileage you do.

If you have standard steel wheels they won't take much else. Get steel modular wheels from Bearmach or one of the others - about 330 each and look quite good - almost like alloys.

As to tyres - depends on how many miles you drive - I find the Colway AT remoulds are great - 235/85 x16 or 265/something - would NEVER use remoulds on a fast car but great on a landy unless you live on the motorway with it. If you do more than 40,000 miles a year go for the BFGs - last 2x as long but 2x the price!!!!

codprawn · 28 June 2005, 23:07

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Originally Posted by peteb

Well had the waxoyling done, reminds me of the old 'Brut advert' splash it all over

I think they put their probes in places that you would never have thought of, I am sure that the vehicle is a lot heavier now, but thanks for the advice re NOT parking it on the driveway, there are still a few drops of the oil dripping off. I hope it does some good, It can't do any damage anyway I wouldn't have thought.

Off to get my Roof Rack tomorrow, what a rip off price they are roof rack & ladder code RTC8161A / STC50417, Labour to fit £196.00, PARTS £384.00, TOTAL £507.00 + VAT. Can anyone tell me what is so difficult about fitting a roof rack, is it not just like the Mechano No 4 set?

Please advise me if it is something I could do myself. Thanks

WHOOPS forgot that!!!!

Idiot bloke I know almost drowned his Rangie in waxoyl - the black stuff - very hot weather so it was runny as hell - above the doors there are a load of big grommets to get at the roof screws. He pumped in gallons of waxoyl and then forgot about it.

2 days later he was taking his wiffe to work in her new dress - went around a corner and out comes a grommet!!!! Would have LOVED to have been there - she is a miserable old cow at the best of times!!!!

Simon B · 30 June 2005, 14:09

Looks like it might have to be the ubiquitous ATs do a lot of mileage on motorway then a tiny bit on the beach launching, must get some stuan deflators and and a truck air compressor.

codprawn · 30 June 2005, 14:39

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Originally Posted by Simon B

Looks like it might have to be the ubiquitous ATs do a lot of mileage on motorway then a tiny bit on the beach launching, must get some stuan deflators and and a truck air compressor.

Whhops meant £30 for wheels - NOT 330!!!!

The deflators are handy but wouldn't bother - it's a lot quicker to let them down than air them up!!!

As to the truck air - best electric tyre inflator I have used but NOT as good as I hoped - still takes about 5 mins per tyre - thats 20mins wasted!!! I am thinking of getting some sort of adaptor to use a pub co2 bottle - they only cost about £7 for a refill and should do a lot of tyres???

Yes letting the tyres down does make a hell of a difference on soft sand - don't forget the trailer as well.

Nick Hearne · 30 June 2005, 14:50

Codders get your self a diving cylinder as refill will be easy to get & cheaper!
If you knead a regulator (I'm shore if you do not have one then one of your mates will) I have a few kicking about!
Nick

codprawn · 30 June 2005, 16:22

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Originally Posted by Nick Hearne

Codders get your self a diving cylinder as refill will be easy to get & cheaper!
If you knead a regulator (I'm shore if you do not have one then one of your mates will) I have a few kicking about!
Nick

Bloody good point - yacht club I have just joined will refill bottles for me FREE!!!

When you say a regulator I assume you mean a normal dive reg or is there an adaptor to enable you to connect up to tyres etc???

Either way thanks for the kind offer - may take you up on it.

Nick Hearne · 30 June 2005, 16:45

I have blown up flat tyres with a divers air gun, the type you bend the rubber end to allow air out! Just held it up tight against the valve! But you could do the same with a hose coming off the reg & holding it tight up against the valve & turning on the air!
Nick

Scary Des · 30 June 2005, 16:59

Nick, what is the second stage max pressure

Des

Nick Hearne · 30 June 2005, 17:09

Bu**erd if I can remember, long time ago I covered the low pressure ports pressures! Did this years ago to blow the tubes up on the rib, but do not do this any more as I understand it can over inflate too easily!
Nick

Scary Des · 30 June 2005, 17:24

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Originally Posted by Nick Hearne

Bu**erd if I can remember, long time ago I covered the low pressure ports pressures! Did this years ago to blow the tubes up on the rib, but do not do this any more as I understand it can over inflate too easily!
Nick

No I wasn’t worried about over pressure or anything like that

it just struck me as a good idea and I was trying to work out if you could simple attach a tyre inflator or if you would have to do something clever to drop the pressure further

Currently I use an old fire extinguisher pumped up from my compressor to fill tyres etc but really it is only good for one tyre because it is only 12 litres at 100psi. But a dive cylinder at 3000 psi could be useful

Des

Jono · 30 June 2005, 17:43

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Originally Posted by Scary Des

Nick, what is the second stage max pressure

Des

In a two stage reg.. the "low pressure" side is around 10 bar....

...just connect it up to a cheap "Clarkes" tyre inflator and away you go...

Nick Hearne · 30 June 2005, 17:46

I thinks simple attach a tyre inflater would work as the pressure is not that great, but I have used it with a hose just coming off a old reg! In this case you I used the tap on the cylinder to regulate the flow which works well!
But I have also used one of my diving regs with a air gun attached to the low pressure hose & inflated tyres using the gun!
Hope that all made sense

Nick

Scary Des · 30 June 2005, 17:51

Thanks

Right off to EBay

Des

Pete7 · 30 June 2005, 18:15

Old Ali cylinders have a problem with hair line cracks, best keep to steel. Inspection interval recently changed to 2.5 years for steel, Ali, well you just don't want to go there.

Not sure of the volume of a landie tyre, but if its 25L x 30 psi thats 2 bar (ish)so you need 50L of air to inflate. Regulator 2nd stage won't work below 10 bar so something like this will hold 600L of air and would do 4 tyres and not require 2 hands to carry.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...165772890&rd=1

Pete

codprawn · 30 June 2005, 21:16

Sorry last ones I promise - only just allowed cockle picking to restart after various bans.

Not a Toyota in site!!!

Also shows off my panasonic Lumix - hell of a camera with a 12x optical stabilised lens - first 2 shots taken from the same spot!!!

Scary Des · 01 July 2005, 08:11

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Sorry last ones I promise - only just allowed cockle picking to restart after various bans.

Not a Toyota in site!!!

Also shows off my panasonic Lumix - hell of a camera with a 12x optical stabilised lens - first 2 shots taken from the same spot!!!

Well done Codders

you’ve sussed the picture uploading thing

so there is now no excuse not to show us a picture of your RIB

Des