Defender Station Wagon TD5

[peteb]

eupa, I looked at those but the tow limit was not much more than my Frontera, I paid £17,500 all in on the road for a brand spanking new Defender 90 Station Wagon with a 3,500kg tow limit, that CANNOT be beaten for value for money

The residual values are another thing as well as spare parts, residuals on the Defender are unmatched by anything similar vehicle on earth. As for parts well I have never seen so many parts at such good prices available for any other vehicle, I have 3 Land Rover magazines and they are full of adverts for every part you can think of, plus body panels are so cheap to repair.

I don't like wasting money, so trust me I have looked at every option and the Defender is the CLEAR winner. I may be eating my words on Friday but the £5,800 saving will help them go down

That members of the jury is the case for the Land Rover fan club

P.S. How many other vehicle manufacturers can claim the fact that 75% of all the same type of vehicles they have built in the last 50yrs are still in use? I rest my case

[peteb]

Originally Posted by Ken

Come on guys.

Give PeteB a break. He's bought a 90 and thats that.

A Kia is probably a very nice vehicle, but the risiduals will be very poor in the UK (especially compared to a defender) because of Kia's rep as a cheap brand.

Pete is looking for helpful advice not a sales pitch from KIA!!!

As I've said before, the defender is an ideal utility vehicle for what he wants, and a Sorento with Leather and every electronic gadget is not really suitable for jumping into wearing wet boating gear.

Ken.

Exactly Ken, thanks, I want a tow vehicle, I have the posh cars with all the leather & gizmo's, Merc and Porsche's, this will be exciting going back to basics and my old military days it will be ideal as a spare 'family bus / tow vehicle'. I deliberately chose the basic over the County as that had no carpets, I have ordered the posh rubber mats , as I want something I can hose out (there is nothing worse than DNA stained carpets ). I can't imagine my wife going in it so she will follow in her car, she is not commando trained but you never know if she had a go she may like it a bit rough and it could excite her

Now does anyone know where I could get a snorkel kit for a Kia?

[Jono]

Originally Posted by peteb

.....Now does anyone know where I could get a snorkel kit for a Kia?

Jewsons?....

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by peteb

Exactly Ken, thanks, I want a tow vehicle, I have the posh cars with all the leather & gizmo's, Merc and Porsche's, this will be exciting going back to basics and my old military days it will be ideal as a spare 'family bus / tow vehicle'. I deliberately chose the basic over the County as that had no carpets, I have ordered the posh rubber mats , as I want something I can hose out (there is nothing worse than DNA stained carpets ). I can't imagine my wife going in it so she will follow in her car, she is not commando trained but you never know if she had a go she may like it a bit rough and it could excite her

Now does anyone know where I could get a snorkel kit for a Kia?

I don't know about that - my Girlfriend LOVES my 110 - far more so than the Range Rover!!! She is honoured in that I actually let her drive it - she is really good - even offroad!!!

It is really funny to see her offroading in her latest outfit - she is very fashion conscious and wears very short skirts - gets quite a few looks driving a Defender!!!

She has perfected a very elegant way of climbing in without flashing - she puts her hands on the seat and jumps in backwards - she is quite supple!!!

[Scary Des]

Originally Posted by codprawn

....It is really funny to see her offroading in her latest outfit - she is very fashion conscious and wears very short skirts - gets quite a few looks driving a Defender!!!.....

Ofroading in a mini skirt does she milk the sheep in a ball gown

Originally Posted by Codprawn

my Girlfriend LOVES my 110

Easily satisfied then my Girl friend wouldn’t accept anything less that 180 Des

[Nick Hearne]

Is this her Codders?

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by Nick Hearne

Is this her Codders?

Funnily enough the one with dark hair DOES look like her from behind!!! BUT she would never be seen dead wearing denim!!!

Have yo actually seen the video that still was taken from? Downloaded it once by mistake - shows scantily clad girls getting a variety of things stuck - a Nissan 350z!!! - a hummer amongst others!!!

http://www.carstuckgirls.com/

Crazy or what????

[codprawn]

And heres the link to the video - NOT streaming!!!

http://www.carstuckgirls.com/preview_vid014.mpg

[gavin]

Here is a poor guy in the Us, got a Range Rover for free, or did he,

And in his attempts to put right the bad Rover, he got it pretty good, by modding with Jap parts, how sick is that??????

"Buy it only if you're going to strip it."
1992 Land Rover Range Rover County
06/14/2004
By: I don't need no stinkin' name!
Owned: 8 years
Review ID: #433383
3.4 Overall Rating

6 Styling
3 Performance
7 Interior
1 Quality
2 Recommendation



Pros:
It's a comfortable car, and I got it for free.


Cons:
It's the most unreliable auto I've ever owned. It rarely ever worked, and it was expensive to repair--VERY expensive. I replaced a distributor cap--cost me $3000. Multiply that by everything that needed replacing. I would have been surprised if there was one little bit of original drivetrain on it. When I realized that I spent more than it was worth on repairs in 5 months, I stripped it out and put in a drivetrain with parts made by Toyota and Honda.


Overall Review:
It's a good car now, but that's because it has the engine from a Toyota Camry, transmission from Honda, and driveshaft and axles build from parts I ordered. I also lowered it so that it was a station wagon--not really an SUV. It gets much better mileage than that hunk of $#!T (28 average compared to 13). My modified

[codprawn]

For God's sake gavin give it a rest - you are getting quite pathetic now.....

[peteb]

I was at World Famous Legoland in Windsor today and guess what I saw, Errr.....is it a Kia? :-

[peteb]

Originally Posted by codprawn

For God's sake gavin give it a rest - you are getting quite pathetic now.....

Don't worry Codders, vehicle arrives at the docks 12noon tomorrow, should clear customs by 3.30pm and they will have the transporter ready to collect it, then cleaned, polished and accessories fitted Friday, I collect hopefuly that afternoon.

I will post pics as soon as I can and await the 'ribbing' ( ) that some may give me, but guess what? I won't give a stuff because the money saved is going towards my first ever RIB, now that is for another day but I think I know the one I am aiming for hence the strong towing vehicle

Oh! any volunteers in the SE who are willing to give 4x4 hints & a few lessons from experience in exchange for a slap up meal and a few beers?

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by peteb

Oh! any volunteers in the SE who are willing to give 4x4 hints & a few lessons from experience in exchange for a slap up meal and a few beers?

Damn, I've given myself away...

Originally Posted by Richard B

Well I'm no 4x4 expert...

Originally Posted by peteb

...the money saved is going towards my first ever RIB...

Oh no, here we go again!

Good luck with it, Pete. My earlier wishes weren't tongue-in-cheek, they were, and are, genuine wishes of good luck for you and the vehicle. I would much rather hear a success story than complaints of poor quality and dis-satisfaction. You never know, I could be persuaded to look again at Land Rover as I'm in no hurry to buy, and I'm not seriously in the market for a 4x4 until next year. I remain open minded about Land Rover, Mitsubishi, and yes, even Kia!

[jwalker]

Richard, you are still being far to nice. There are no blobs anymore, you do realise?

[peteb]

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by jwalker

Richard, you are still being far to nice. There are no blobs anymore, you do realise?

You have me confused with someone else!

[jwalker]

[peteb]

Nightmare I have just been told that the car has a heated rear screen AND wiper, this is not on the standard model, I didn't ask for it, it is all in the original price of £17,500 what can I do?

That was just the start, some bugger has had the cheek to fit locking wheel nuts as well again all in the price

[Nick Hearne]

Originally Posted by peteb

Nightmare I have just been told that the car has a heated rear screen AND wiper, this is not on the standard model, I didn't ask for it, it is all in the original price of £17,500 what can I do?

That was just the start, some bugger has had the cheek to fit locking wheel nuts as well again all in the price

I should ask for a discount
Nick
How about this for some pointers?
http://www.landrover.com/gb/en/Adven...Experience.htm

[DM]

Originally Posted by Richard B

and of questionable quality when compared against Mr Mitsubishi's offerings.

Do a search for POCUK forums which is a technical site for Shogun/Pajero owners. There seems to be just as many shortcomings as LR products.

DM