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Old 11 September 2007, 15:11   #21
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Old 11 September 2007, 15:11   #22
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I'm with timw too. I do swear, probably too much but rarely at another person directly. I often swear at myself and at things, usually inanimate objects. If, say, I loose concentration and ping off that essential piece of plastic with a screwdriver I'm certainly going to follow it with, "Oh shit you've fucked it now." or if there's an almost inaccessible bolt I'm having difficulty releasing it's also going to get a verbal bashing and so is the guy who designed it that way, usually followed by me laughing at myself for the ridiculous swearing at a piece of steel which is plainly pleased with itself. Strangely, it seems to help. However, I see this as different to open abuse of another by swearing. On the very odd accasion it has happened, I've later been disappointed with myself for loosing the place in that situation.
It is becoming more common and more acceptable but I see it as just another wee step down the rungs of the slippery ladder.
I'll openly admit to switching off TV programs which contain abusive language, violence, rape, mugging etc. I simply don't enjoy it. It may be a getting old thing because I don't remember being so sensitive about it when I was younger.

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..if someone's heading in a car towards me or one of mine - then the actual language used would be of secondary importance to getting the message across.
Exactly, so why does it need to be swearing?
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Old 11 September 2007, 15:23   #23
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Perhaps I was incorrect about the origins of the F-Word...but I believe I am correct about the origins of the word Chav.

I did hear speculation that it was derived from "Council house vermin" but I don't think so.
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Looking at the heading shouldn't this be in the North American section???
Codders, would you care to explain why?
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I did hear speculation that it was derived from "Council house vermin" but I don't think so.
I always thought it was "Council House And Violent", I like the vermin one though.
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Old 11 September 2007, 16:18   #26
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Old 11 September 2007, 16:46   #27
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Codders, would you care to explain why?
I think cod is refering to "cuss words" an American phrase - the quote is taken by JK form the film The Big Lebowski, see short version on my previous post.

Good work Jk, that phrase really ties the thread together.
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I think cod is refering to "cuss words" an American phrase - the quote is taken by JK form the film The Big Lebowski, see short version on my previous post.

Good work Jk, that phrase really ties the thread together.
Indeed so - glad someone got it at last!!!

Cuss is about as Yank as you can get - of course it has a place - about 3,000 miles away to be exact. It is a shortened form of curse.

Not having a go at your lot pat - just trying to keep my fellow countrymen in check........
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Not having a go at your lot pat - just trying to keep my fellow countrymen in check........
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And talking of swear words prob the worse one in the English language is C#*t - apparently it was in common usage many years ago and there were actually roads called Grope C#*t Lane - they were very common all over the UK. Many were later changed to things like Grape Lane and Grove Lane.

Threadneedle Street in London was also called the above many years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grope_Lane


And before anyone asks I knew all about this without the internet's help!!!
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I do swear, probably too much but rarely at another person directly. I often swear at myself and at things, usually inanimate objects. If, say, I loose concentration and ping off that essential piece of plastic with a screwdriver I'm certainly going to follow it with, "Oh shit you've fucked it now." or if there's an almost inaccessible bolt I'm having difficulty releasing it's also going to get a verbal bashing and so is the guy who designed it that way, usually followed by me laughing at myself for the ridiculous swearing at a piece of steel which is plainly pleased with itself. Strangely, it seems to help. However, I see this as different to open abuse of another by swearing.
I tend to be like that and rarely use swearing directly at another person, though when I do it is usually because it is necessary to make a forceful point fairly rapidly, and "oh my goodness me" type stuff doesn't do that for me, there is a time and a place where a short barrage of verbal invective is quite effective.

In the garage, surrounded by inanimate objects trying their damndest to decapitate me with every swing of a spanner, you'd be forgiven for thinking the end of the world was nigh if you had an ear to the keyhole and didn't know me
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Old 11 September 2007, 17:28   #33
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Oh yeh, your allowed to swear at your friends....that's how you can tell they're friends.

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I have noticed in my remarkable life that people who use profane language ,have a very small vocabulary...

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As it happens I almost never swear directly at people-you don't last long in my job if you swear at people when the company phone number and name is all over the truck.I prefer to look and smile while they give me abuse then suggest they apologise or I'll call the police and have them removed for obstruction or breathalysed. NOT swearing is far more effective.

I didn't swear directly AT him either-read the original post properly.If he could hear me from where he was I'd be amazed. His wife hearing was incidental too-I was unaware that he was recovering that particular boat and for all I knew he could have been recovering another one that was queueing on the pontoon.I was quite amused that his wife would own up to knowing him in public though considering the complete clown he was being.


Timw, you're still boring me. The analogy of a cheap tawdry windup tin soldier beating his little drum was I feel, quite accurate. Maybe if we wind you up some more your spring will break?
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Old 11 September 2007, 21:37   #36
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Timw, you're still boring me. The analogy of a cheap tawdry windup tin soldier beating his little drum was I feel, quite accurate. Maybe if we wind you up some more your spring will break?
I'm not in the slightest concerned if I bore you.

You wonder if "...if we wind you up some more your spring might break".

I very much doubt in your case that the "royal we" would be applicable, so I wonder which group of people you refer to that are in fact winding me up?

To reassure you, I'm not wound up at all, but given your reaction to my posts perhaps you don't take criticism too well.

If I see a post of yours describing something you did such as shouting an expletive (and you stated that clearly in your post) in front of families, then I shall post a critical comment.

If that bores you, so be it. But I hope it will make you think twice before doing it again.
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I have noticed in my remarkable life that people who use profane language ,have a very small vocabulary...

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and then there is some remarkable people who do use profane language .

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I shall post a critical comment.
Yes, you're good at that aren't you. It would make a pleasant change to hear something that didn't sound like a thinly disguised whine from your direction.

I'm currently running a book with one of my alter-egos.

Next post from Timw-
3:2 it says 'Ribnet Court' somewhere
2:1 it says 'yob' somewhere, fails to actually read what's said properly,gets on it's soapbox and goes off at a tangent to the rest of the thread.
1:50 that there's actually something useful to someone else in there.
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