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10 September 2007, 15:20
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Originally Posted by Nos4r2
i shout 'Oi watch out. Whats this f*cking knobhead think he's doing?'
Reply from his wife-'That's my husband'...
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Sadly the gentle days of messing about in boats having fun seems to be over.
Surely no incident can be an excuse for shouting obsceneties in front of families with children.
It is simply yobbish behaviour for those lacking the ability and intelligence to quietly discuss and resolve any disputes and finishing up with a handshake.
What hope is there for the future of the civility of this activity when kids witness an adult behaving in this way?
And the really sad thing is that he appears to be proud of himself by posting this story for all to read...
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10 September 2007, 15:41
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Originally Posted by timw
Sadly the gentle days of messing about in boats having fun seems to be over.
Surely no incident can be an excuse for shouting obsceneties in front of families with children.
It is simply yobbish behaviour for those lacking the ability and intelligence to quietly discuss and resolve any disputes and finishing up with a handshake.
What hope is there for the future of the civility of this activity when kids witness an adult behaving in this way?
And the really sad thing is that he appears to be proud of himself by posting this story for all to read...
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The really sad part is that people don't seem to be able to queue or wait for 5 mins, if the person in front is a little slower than expected or god forbid actually offer to help them with their boat.
The civility left the rest of the queue on this occasion when the few jumped to the front as they had landed on the slip (as they could see a queue of boats on the pontoon) blocking it for all then allowed their children & dogs to run around behind boats and trailers as they prepared their boats for recovery.
But each to his own, only my view
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10 September 2007, 18:08
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Originally Posted by timw
Sadly the gentle days of messing about in boats having fun seems to be over.
Surely no incident can be an excuse for shouting obsceneties in front of families with children.
It is simply yobbish behaviour for those lacking the ability and intelligence to quietly discuss and resolve any disputes and finishing up with a handshake.
What hope is there for the future of the civility of this activity when kids witness an adult behaving in this way?
And the really sad thing is that he appears to be proud of himself by posting this story for all to read...
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So next time I see someone reversing fast in a manner not akin to a rabid snake towards my tow vehicle and my girlfriend who's standing behind it and is going to get crushed when he hits it I'll just sit there, 60 feet away and say 'oh my' and shake his hand afterwards shall I?
If you were there Timw then you've got the right to comment on my language. As you weren't then I'd appreciate it if you got very carefully off your horse as it's quite a long way up.
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10 September 2007, 20:28
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Originally Posted by Nos4r2
If you were there Timw then you've got the right to comment on my language. As you weren't then I'd appreciate it if you got very carefully off your horse as it's quite a long way up.
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You seem quite pleased to post the language you were using on a public forum, so I have every right to comment on it.
Using expletives such as those you shouted is inexcuseable in front of families and children.
You may have been urgently trying to alert, but most people on a day out simply don't want to hear that sort of language.
And yes if I was there I would have told you the same thing.
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10 September 2007, 21:05
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Originally Posted by timw
You seem quite pleased to post the language you were using on a public forum, so I have every right to comment on it.
Using expletives such as those you shouted is inexcuseable in front of families and children.
You may have been urgently trying to alert, but most people on a day out simply don't want to hear that sort of language.
And yes if I was there I would have told you the same thing.
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As the Dude would say
The dude abides
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10 September 2007, 21:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timw
You seem quite pleased to post the language you were using on a public forum,
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Really? Where exactly does it say that?
Quote:
Originally Posted by timw
Using expletives such as those you shouted is inexcuseable in front of families and children.
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Even though the kids were using worse language...
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Originally Posted by timw
You may have been urgently trying to alert, but most people on a day out simply don't want to hear that sort of language.
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Diddums. Don't be an incompetent slug and I won't swear at you.
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Originally Posted by timw
And yes if I was there I would have told you the same thing.
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Really? I doubt it.
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10 September 2007, 22:14
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1) You seen eager to tell the story and your writing appears to show a puff of pride in your tale.
2) Using the excuse that children were using worse language than you is ne
beneath contempt. They look to adults for an example, and although many set a bad example there is no need to join them. There were no doubt many decent families on the slipway that day who shouldn't be subjected to such behaviour.
3) So being incompetent deserves a shouted expletive? No it doesn't.
4) You doubt it? Perhaps yobbish behaviour by shouting swear words is supposed to frighten objectors away. It doesn't worry me...and I repeat if I was there, I would have asked you to stop.
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10 September 2007, 22:32
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More self-important guff
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You bore me. You bang on at everyone without any idea of the real facts and add your own suppositions to 'prove' your points.
We don't need a self-important moral guardian.
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10 September 2007, 22:37
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Obviously pictures are a little easier for you. Well done.
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10 September 2007, 23:38
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Don't worry Mat Ill jump on the bike in the Morning and pop down to Penmarlem appologise for your behavior and put a penny in the swear box , Caja may also need some counceling iam afarid as she could have heard me say "Look at that plonker in the subaru"
be sure to turn the telly off before 6 in the evening incase the kids hear some words they haven't heard before .
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11 September 2007, 00:22
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Looking at the heading shouldn't this be in the North American section???
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11 September 2007, 08:03
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Actually...I'm sort of with TimW on this one....shock, horror.... I work in the Engineering trade and therefore know lots of interesting variations on phrases for "Excuse me, my good fellow, but I think you may have made a smallish error, there.." and as such, find that I’m using more and more expletives in everyday life…and I AM embarrassed… but because I use so many at work it has become a habit.. one of which I’m not proud.
I do think that the increasing use of profanity and expletives on television and in films has numbed us to their effect and it is now common to hear youngsters and I mean children, not “Yoofs” using bad language as an everyday method of communication….and worse is that we all tolerate it because we’re as guilty as they are… ho-hum…
Am I getting old?
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11 September 2007, 09:35
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Originally Posted by Nos4r2
We don't need a self-important moral guardian.
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And who exactly is "We"? Do you speak on behalf of others in some sort of vitual club or clique you are in?
Jono is right...the tide of foul language is embarrassing. It can be turned if adults set an example to children.
In previous posts, you go to great lengths to distance yourself from (and I hate to use the media popular word) Chavs.
So may I suggest you stop being one and behave appropriately at occasions where families are present.
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11 September 2007, 12:51
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I'm with Nos - if someone's heading in a car towards me or one of mine - then the actual language used would be of secondary importance to getting the message across.
and I think Nos was actually quite restrained!
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11 September 2007, 13:32
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Originally Posted by Jono
Actually...I'm sort of with TimW on this one...
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an mee az wel. de bastud iz rite. fowl langwij inn a pubic plaice iz jus nott on.
itts fkin ileegul az wel
gaRf
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11 September 2007, 13:49
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Cod... was that a slam? Curse you for pointing us out yet again..
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Looking at the heading shouldn't this be in the North American section???
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It's the Queens english Cod, where do you think it properly belongs? Too many people use slang/curse words unfortunately, spread through television, music and movies and general use. I have heard the origins of the F word were that it stood for "fornication under consent of king". Anyone care to comment on that to enlighten our posters? In any case swearing around women and especially children is of course in poor taste. I have slipped myself on occasion, generally followed by an apology, no individual is perfect...
By the way, would a chav be a general description for any social misfit or does this describe a certain ethnicity? That slang term is not in use here and I have never heard anyone use it...
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11 September 2007, 14:57
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Originally Posted by pathalla
It's the Queens english Cod, where do you think it properly belongs? Too many people use slang/curse words unfortunately, spread through television, music and movies and general use. I have heard the origins of the F word were that it stood for "fornication under consent of king". Anyone care to comment on that to enlighten our posters? In any case swearing around women and especially children is of course in poor taste. I have slipped myself on occasion, generally followed by an apology, no individual is perfect...
By the way, would a chav be a general description for any social misfit or does this describe a certain ethnicity? That slang term is not in use here and I have never heard anyone use it...
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The F-word come from the phrase "Found under Carnal Knowledge" which came from a period in Ireland's history, that when a couple were caught fornicating in public, like under a bush or somewhere, this was the phrase written in the charge book in the police stations, hence the initials resulting in today's f-word.
"Chav" is derived from "Cheltenham Average" the term used by the pupils of the highly expensive and exclusive Cheltenham Ladies College, about some of the poorer townspeople who they considered "lower class".
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11 September 2007, 15:01
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Originally Posted by timw
The F-word come from the phrase "Found under Carnal Knowledge"
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Oh no it doesn't!
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"Chav" is derived from "Cheltenham Average" the term used by the pupils of the highly expensive and exclusive Cheltenham Ladies College, about some of the poorer townspeople who they considered "lower class".
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Not sure that's right either!
John
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11 September 2007, 15:09
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Originally Posted by timw
The F-word come from the phrase "Found under Carnal Knowledge" which came from a period in Ireland's history, that when a couple were caught fornicating in public, like under a bush or somewhere, this was the phrase written in the charge book in the police stations, hence the initials resulting in today's f-word.
"Chav" is derived from "Cheltenham Average" the term used by the pupils of the highly expensive and exclusive Cheltenham Ladies College, about some of the poorer townspeople who they considered "lower class".
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I tend to agree with your view on the 'over' use of offensive language but, I dont know where you got these word derivations from? The 'F' word I always thought derived from some Anglo Saxon utterance and 'Chav'or 'Chavie' is Romany for child.
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11 September 2007, 15:09
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Am I getting old?
Well, well, well- the great Jono now looking in the mirror... and not happy with the reflection?????
Join the gang brother.. Got that Zimmer yet??
Jonathan
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