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16 November 2012, 12:48
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What is the best price you are paying for 1 ton dump bag of logs ?
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16 November 2012, 13:06
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I pay £90.00 per load, not sure how that relates to one ton bags, 2-3 bags I would guess?
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16 November 2012, 13:19
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What is the best price you are paying for 1 ton dump bag of logs ?
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I got some seasoned birch 2M 2 approximately £200 inc and delivered on a pallet
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16 November 2012, 13:26
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16 November 2012, 15:02
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£60 for a pickup load down here - hey we've found something that's cheaper in Devon!!!!!!
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16 November 2012, 16:02
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Our local farmer does it at £45 delivered. I "harvest" my own
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16 November 2012, 16:21
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Our local farmer does it at £45 delivered. I "harvest" my own
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I, have noticed there are no trees round your neck of the woods...pardon the pun
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16 November 2012, 16:46
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There are pages and pages of discussion about firewood on Arbtalk if anyone's interested. Although it's probably more information than anyone really needs or wants!
Just make sure that when you are comparing loads that are delivered in "1 ton" bags you know how big they are (they vary from around half a cubic meter, occasionally right up to a full cubic meter). Whatever size they are though, remember that they don't hold anything like a ton of firewood!
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16 November 2012, 16:59
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£55 is the best we got about a month ago delivered to driveway and dumped
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16 November 2012, 17:22
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free! though i had to build my own log splitter to process them!
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16 November 2012, 18:14
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Dried oak weighs around 700 kgs per cubic meter
Dried pine weighs around 435 kgs per cubic meter
Obviously the calculations are only a rough guide
owing to how dry the wood is and how dense it is knots ect ,
That's what a local tree feller used to say working weights out for firewood deliveries .
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16 November 2012, 21:16
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free! though i had to build my own log splitter to process them!
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Made mine too
I'll show you mine... if you show me yours
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16 November 2012, 21:22
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Don't do it Festinghouse - word is he has a big chopper!
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16 November 2012, 21:32
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im sorry willk, i just cant help it! tell me if you beat this - 16ton dual action ram, 8foot overall length, double ended with a single blade at one end and a cross blade at the other running off a portable petrol engined hydraulic pack
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Made from the boom of a burnt out mini excavator (Karma dont you think ? ) and its dozer blade for the tractor mount. Only needed for pine hence no multiple chisle head .... driven by the vintage tractor hydraulics with a D/A control valve on the side of the splitter .. which is a bit of good tech from a single feed system of the tractor put in constant flow
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16 November 2012, 22:38
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Good stuff and thanks for all the info, I'm paying about £45 for a 1m cube bag. Stupid really as I. Have several tons waiting to be cut and split but still very green beech which fell down last month in the gales.
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16 November 2012, 23:46
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You can't go on weight as less seasoned wood weighs more. It's best to go on volume and type.
We pay £120 for - transit flatbed tipper of 12 month seasoned hard wood. About 3-4 dumpy bags or 3cubic metres.
Or £70 for seasoned rings that need an axe.
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17 November 2012, 00:13
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Those of you with home built splitters (DIY is always cool!) it doesn't look like you use large, nor long rounds. I split lengths of around 22 inches (55cm) and keep them fat so they burn all night. The rounds sometimes weigh in at well over 300 lbs (136kg) so there is no way I could lift them onto a deck to split. Instead I roll them under a 30 ton vertical splitter which makes short work of them.
We heat primarily with wood and go thru about 3-4 cords of wood a year. Often the fire burns 24 hours a day. Fortunately we have a nice woodstove that doesn't even smoke once a fire is nice and hot, and kicks out a lot of heat.
Cost? Well it is all in petrol, and that is not cheap, but probably around $50 us dollars per year. The wood has to be cut using a chainsaw out in the field, and I am fortunate in that I found an unlimited supply of oak. Then hauled home, split, and stacked. It is a lot of physical work.
On the other hand you can have a tree service drop a load of log rounds in the front yard for free. Then pay someone with a splitter to come split and stack it for a reasonable price. It won't be oak, but there are plenty of good woods out there.
Buying wood already split and having it delivered is the way to go...Paying someone to stack it is even better.
Heating with a solar thermal and photovoltaic powered geothermal heatpump is the best thing for the environment, and in our future.
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17 November 2012, 08:40
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Originally Posted by Bigmuz7
Made from the boom of a burnt out mini excavator (Karma dont you think ? ) and its dozer blade for the tractor mount. Only needed for pine hence no multiple chisle head .... driven by the vintage tractor hydraulics with a D/A control valve on the side of the splitter .. which is a bit of good tech from a single feed system of the tractor put in constant flow
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that looks cool! though a bit of a shame for the digger. with two or three people working my splitter (one at each end, and one stacking) i can split nearly a winters worth of logs in half a day, at an estimated cost of £20 for fuel in both the hydraulic pack and chainsaws.
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17 November 2012, 09:54
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Originally Posted by Festinghouse
that looks cool! though a bit of a shame for the digger. with two or three people working my splitter (one at each end, and one stacking) i can split nearly a winters worth of logs in half a day, at an estimated cost of £20 for fuel in both the hydraulic pack and chainsaws.
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There's always the misnomer of miscalculating actual costs. The chainsaw needs purchasing, (£300) will need a service once a year, (£40) the chain won't last that long and will need sharpening and replacing (£20) then it'll ultimately die. The splitter needs buying (£750 for a pto one) won't last forever, needs servicing (£50) and there is of course the alternative cost of your labour (£10-? Per hour). You may need a towbar (£200-?) a trailer (£250-?) that'll need a service too. An axe and sledge for tough ones. The list goes on.
Economies of scale often mean that unless you have the gear anyway, it's not worth it. Buy a ready seasoned split load put on your doorstep.
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