Go Back   RIBnet Forums > RIB talk > Other stuff
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 18 December 2015, 10:09   #21
Member
 
Erin's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,893
The problem with halogen downlighters is that they were originally designed with dichroic reflectors for shop window displays. The idea being that the light is reflected down onto the products but the heat isn't. Clearly not a good format when installed in a ceiling with an enclosed or insulated space above. Modern LED alternatives still generate some heat, but nothing like as much. These are particularly good for a wide spread of light with shallow mounting depth.
Erin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 December 2015, 10:11   #22
Administrator
 
John Kennett's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Brighton
Length: 3m +
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 7,108
+1

It's definitely worth changing. We're on our second generation of LED GU10s now. The first lot were a bit borderline, but I actually prefer the new ones over Halogens.
__________________
John Kennett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 December 2015, 18:50   #23
Member
 
A1an's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Fort William
Make: Ribcraft 585
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha F115
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,919
RIBase
Fitting Celotex / Kingspan Insulation Board

I've got about 20 down lighters in the house and I swapped the halogens for LED bulbs but I didn't like the "light", too clean/crisp and it didn't suit the cottage.

This was a year or so ago, maybe LEDs have "softened" since then?

All the down lighters have space above them into the attic and Ive stripped back the glass wool from around them. I did have the little flame bags above them but they just held the heat in and the bulbs overheated and blew. No problem since taking the bags off and letting the heat escape upwards.
__________________
There is a place on this planet for all of Gods creatures.........right next to my tatties and gravy.
A1an is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 December 2015, 19:25   #24
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,872
Quote:
Originally Posted by A1an View Post
I've got about 20 down lighters in the house and I swapped the halogens for LED bulbs but I didn't like the "light", too clean/crisp and it didn't suit the cottage.

.
There are 'Cold white' and 'warm white' options, you must've had the colds. Bin off all of those halogens, pop into Asda and replace them with warm white GU10s, if that's what you have.
__________________
Mollers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 December 2015, 19:39   #25
Member
 
A1an's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Fort William
Make: Ribcraft 585
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha F115
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,919
RIBase
Fitting Celotex / Kingspan Insulation Board

Il try that, might just get the one first though, it made me wince a little when I bought 20 and didn't like them.
__________________
There is a place on this planet for all of Gods creatures.........right next to my tatties and gravy.
A1an is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 December 2015, 21:24   #26
Member
 
tony t's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: west mids /tywyn
Boat name: HAWK
Make: RIBCRAFT/ Suzuki 250
Length: 7m +
Engine: Tohatsu 3.8/15hpsuzi
MMSI: 235086594
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,270
Quote:
Originally Posted by A1an View Post
Il try that, might just get the one first though, it made me wince a little when I bought 20 and didn't like them.

A Scotsman wincing over costs .... Your having a laugh
__________________
When you get to the end of your rope..tie a knot and hang on..!!
Aberdovey Ribs
B.I.O.C.Member
B.S. LEADER
tony t is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 December 2015, 23:07   #27
RIBnet admin team
 
willk's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,898
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers View Post
IMPORTANT note to all, replace all halogen downlighter lamps (bulbs) with LEDs today! A sparky friend showed me the evidence of what a halogen downlighter can do in a confined space over time. Think of scorched timber after a bonfire.

Another top tip. Asda LED bulbs came out top in recent tests and they're as cheap as chips right now.
Deffo the way forward. I'm in the process of removing both 12v and 240V halos at work. Some of the heat damage is frightening - scorched wiring (leading to shorts) and timber. LED quality is a mixed bag. I've had time to test some to the limits, running 16-24 hours a day. Failures are common and some are not rated for 24/7 use - resulting in melted lenses and failure and/or shorting. I'm now seeing some reach end-of-life at 20-30k hours so have seen the bad and the good.
__________________
.
willk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 December 2015, 08:55   #28
RIBnet admin team
 
Poly's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,627
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers View Post
There are 'Cold white' and 'warm white' options, you must've had the colds. Bin off all of those halogens, pop into Asda and replace them with warm white GU10s, if that's what you have.
Pop in! That must be a four hour round trip for Alan!
__________________
Poly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 December 2015, 10:45   #29
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,872
Quote:
Originally Posted by willk View Post
Deffo the way forward..... .

Philips Master were regarded as the be all.., at a price.

I guy who was tinkering with my sparky bits at home recently, who was extremely clued up on the subject, very much extolled the virtues of the Asda offerings.
I shot down and bought a couple of boxes (box of 6 £15, one Philips Master £12 when I bought them), IMV the Asders out perform the Philips. For how long, we'll see.
__________________
Mollers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 December 2015, 10:52   #30
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,872
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly View Post
Pop in! That must be a four hour round trip for Alan!
You boys choose to live in such godforsaken places.
__________________
Mollers is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT. The time now is 05:34.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.