Government plans to tax sea fishing

[ashbypower]

more HERE

[PeterR]

It Sucks

[Andy Moore]

Arseholes.

[blinddog]

Just another way of milking us!!!!
Me finks this government needs to go, they are just crap at everything.
gaZ

[Poly]

mmm... the maths don't add up to me:

An estimated 1.1m people take part in angling in the UK, contributing £1.3bn to local economies, according to Mr Rowe.

Plans to force sea anglers to buy a £22 annual sea fishing licence are being considered

It is thought such a licence could raise £3m a year and this would then be put towards maintaining and managing fish stocks.

£ 1.1m x 22 = £ 24.2 m not £3m

So either they are expecting only 1/8th of the participants to be honest enough to licence - or they are saying that each application will cost about £21.85 in admin and overheads (which is quite feasible) - but surely it is not sensible to go to all this trouble to collect what (in government terms) is a tiny amount of money. Any sector generating £1.3 bn for the ecconomy should be being supported to the tune of £3m (to protect fish stocks etc) anyway - thats just ecconomic development.

I don't even fish and I think it is stupid!

[Nos4r2]

"In return the government would safeguard sea fish stocks and look after sea anglers' interests, it says."

Yeah right. I'd like to hear them explain exactly how they'll do that. No-one's explained to them yet that it's not a lake and fish SWIM!
I shan't be paying for a licence but I'm damned if I'll stop fishing.

Take a read of this-it's the consultation for it.

http://www.defra.gov.uk/corporate/co...ling/index.htm

I emailed DEFRA 2 days ago-along with 3 of the sea angling lobby groups(defra's email is on the link, there's also a few others to try-Leon Roskilly,SACN, contact thru pm on Worldseafishing.com forums.
John leballeur,BASS, contact jrleballeur@ukbass.com
Richard Ferre, NFSA
(a quick google will turn up contact emails for them)
. Anyone else who's not happy about it feel free to copy my mail to them and adapt/put their own name on it.

"Dear whoever.

The public are sick and tired of jobsworths looking for a reason to justify their own employment. We go sea angling to get away from pressures of work,beaurocratic ineptitude and inefficiency that has come to personify this country. You are going to ruin it.

We would prefer that things stayed the same than you interfered as you consistently show that you are incapable of even managing your own feeding times.

We don't want government interference.

We don't want to be forced to pay for yet another beaurocratic nightmare that simply won't work-in fact I WON'T pay for a licence if you attempt to force it on us.

We want you to take a running jump. Preferably from a short pier.

Go Away."


Sorry JK, I know this is politics-but it's legislation that's being aimed at all of us here who even chuck a spinner in for half an hour once a year.

[ian parkes]

That would mean yet another boat out there with a crew trying to justify thier existance, paid for by the tax payer . Unless they get the beach lifeguards to do it as part of thier regular jolly jaunts along the coast in thier sibs .

I I was a keen sea fisherman then £22 a year isn't bad if it does some good ?? but for the few days I chuck a few feathers over the side and catch half a dozen mackerel it takes the piss

[Biggles]

Bet it would be a new european checking a fishing licence near you.

LOL.

[danwells]

some people may think its not to bad paying 22 pounds a year on a sea fishing licence and il admit niter do i as im a keen sea fisherman being only 16 and i own a 17 ft wilson flyer with a 60 yamaha 2 stroke. the arguement is if a child or a family say fish 4 or 5 times a year and they would still have to pay 22 pounds plus bait and transport thats quite a bit of money for 4 or 5 fishing trips a year.

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by danwells

some people may think its not to bad paying 22 pounds a year on a sea fishing licence and il admit niter do i as im a keen sea fisherman being only 16 and i own a 17 ft wilson flyer with a 60 yamaha 2 stroke. the arguement is if a child or a family say fish 4 or 5 times a year and they would still have to pay 22 pounds plus bait and transport thats quite a bit of money for 4 or 5 fishing trips a year.

What exactly do you think you'd get for your money? You certainly aren't going to get more fish or any kind of resource management.

[codprawn]

No comment.

[Poly]

Originally Posted by codprawn

No comment.

Glad to see you are back to full fitness with posts of this quality

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by Polwart

Glad to see you are back to full fitness with posts of this quality

Well I DID make a totally different post but then thought better of it as I don't want to incurr the wrath of the mighty one..........

[Poly]

Originally Posted by codprawn

Well I DID make a totally different post but then thought better of it

Ah - there is a strange quirk where sometimes the "edited" statement doesn't appear... when you are quick editting.

Originally Posted by codprawn

the wrath of the mighty one..........

gArf ?

[John Kennett]

Originally Posted by Polwart

Ah - there is a strange quirk where sometimes the "edited" statement doesn't appear... when you are quick editting.

You get two minutes after submitting a post where you can make changes without the "Edited by" being added.

John

[danwells]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

What exactly do you think you'd get for your money? You certainly aren't going to get more fish or any kind of resource management.

yes thats right and you will not get access to any ather venues.

[GuyP]

Commercial fishing firms could also be made to pay up to £1,000 for the benefit of fishing in British waters

How are they going to collect that from foreign trawlers then? Come aside them in a launch and pass over the Switch machine

I think they'll find it contravenes European law and that it'll just be a tax on British fisherman that the continental europeans won't have to pay.

[Hightower]

Yet another Stealth Tax