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11 August 2008, 13:55
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Had a 30 minute lesson in a Robinson R22 excellent, no doubt codders has one somewhere!
What a nightmare to keep steady! I might stick to ribbing.
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11 August 2008, 14:02
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Originally Posted by Simon B
Had a 30 minute lesson in a Robinson R22 excellent, no doubt codders has one somewhere!
What a nightmare to keep steady! I might stick to ribbing.
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Definitely NOT - can't stand the R22!!! I have flown the R44 which is a bit better - believe it or not the R22 is probably the hardest helicopter there is to fly - the bigger they are the easier they get. The Hughes 300 is also tiny but much nicer to fly.
If I can ever afford one my dream is an MD500 or an old Gazelle.
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11 August 2008, 15:28
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I like the sturdy solid looking lines of the MD Explorer NOTAR.
So if I master the R22 the world of whirling is mine!
It looked like it had a 5 litre VW camper engine in it, albeit by Lycoming
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11 August 2008, 18:34
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As a CPL(H) I d rather the 206 everytime!
Learnt on the R22, rated on the R22, R44, 206B and the good old 269A.
Following the news today the NOTARs are grounded following an anti torque problem...
W.
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11 August 2008, 23:55
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Originally Posted by SDGANDER
As a CPL(H) I d rather the 206 everytime!
Learnt on the R22, rated on the R22, R44, 206B and the good old 269A.
Following the news today the NOTARs are grounded following an anti torque problem...
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I think it's the MD902s - it's ironic that something without a tail rotor still causes problems - and you get less performance!!!
I don't know if you have ever flown a Hughes300 but I was very impressed - for a small piston engined machine it was very smooth and stable.
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12 August 2008, 00:47
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Yes I think it was a notar related control problem...
Not flown the 300 but the 269 is very similar and when you remember there is no governor its also a lovely machine to fly.
Unfortunatelty the one I used to have a share in was recently wrecked near Peacehaven in Sussex 
W.
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12 August 2008, 02:25
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Originally Posted by SDGANDER
Yes I think it was a notar related control problem...
Not flown the 300 but the 269 is very similar and when you remember there is no governor its also a lovely machine to fly.
Unfortunatelty the one I used to have a share in was recently wrecked near Peacehaven in Sussex
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It's scary when you hear things like that - my mate's 300 that we spent many happy hours in crashed and 3 people were killed - turned out the flying school he sold it to had been swapping all sorts of out of hours parts!!!
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12 August 2008, 13:41
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Originally Posted by Simon B
Had a 30 minute lesson in a Robinson R22 excellent, no doubt codders has one somewhere!
What a nightmare to keep steady! I might stick to ribbing.
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Treated myself to a lesson for a certain birthday, it was great fun but it makes boating look very cheap! I had no problem flying along and turns, but hovering was clearly going to take more than an hours lesson!
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When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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12 August 2008, 15:59
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simon, dont give up, it wont take long to master the hover, reckon on 8 hours minimum,the key word is anticipate! then you'll be off on your own at 20 hours !! thats scary but great fun, The R22 is a great tool, and probally the cheapest way to get airbourne,have done 400 plus hours in the Beta 2 before going on to the R44 Astro, raven1 and 2 and finally to the 206 L, ah those were the days !!thumbs:
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12 August 2008, 16:00
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Originally Posted by Cookee
Treated myself to a lesson for a certain birthday, it was great fun but it makes boating look very cheap! I had no problem flying along and turns, but hovering was clearly going to take more than an hours lesson!
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Cheers Cookee, so it wasnt just me, my Instructor said some people bordered on the horrifically dangerous to suicidal he said my performance was good. I thought it wasnt.
Codprawn
It did feel like steering corrections on a Land Rover!
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12 August 2008, 17:57
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lol ...had a go as well in the R22 ....like cookee flew not bad but the hovering was a nightmare ............we get pilots on deck every day and will always remember one talking about the small choppers
'no-one actually flies these things but controls it enough to stop it crashing'
he flew gyrocopters as well for his hobby
the bigger choppers seem to be more stable though thankfully ...even after a lightening strike
not nice.
I
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12 August 2008, 18:19
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Originally Posted by Simon B
Had a 30 minute lesson in a Robinson R22 excellent, no doubt codders has one somewhere!
What a nightmare to keep steady! I might stick to ribbing.
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Why not try fixed wing,cheaper and easier to fly if you want to get in the air
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12 August 2008, 18:53
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Why not try fixed wing,cheaper and easier to fly if you want to get in the air
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But no where near as much fun! 
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12 August 2008, 23:53
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But no where near as much fun!
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You could be right,I have never tried but have wanted to. 
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13 August 2008, 00:03
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But no where near as much fun!
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A Pitts or an Extra boring??? They make an Apache feel tame!!!
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13 August 2008, 08:42
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A Pitts or an Extra boring??? They make an Apache feel tame!!!
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Yeah but try parking one next the pub for lunch! Plus I was thinking more straight and level in a 152!
SDG
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13 August 2008, 11:16
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Yeah but try parking one next the pub for lunch! Plus I was thinking more straight and level in a 152!
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The 152 Aerobat though a bit under powered is good fun.
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13 August 2008, 13:28
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Yeah but try parking one next the pub for lunch! Plus I was thinking more straight and level in a 152!
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Who needs a helicopter???
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13 August 2008, 13:45
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Who needs a helicopter???
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 thats unbelievable
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13 August 2008, 15:12
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Quote:
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Who needs a helicopter???
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Especially when you can get fixed wings to hover !!
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