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Old 07 December 2010, 21:19   #1
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Inland Revenue- explained simply

Not my own words but a very simple explanation i was emailed

The Tax system

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to £100...

If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this...

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay £1.
The sixth would pay £3.
The seventh would pay £7.
The eighth would pay £12.
The ninth would pay £18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay £59.

So, that's what they decided to do.

The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve ball.

"Since you are all such good customers," he said, “I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by £20". Drinks for the ten men would now cost just £80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes.

So the first four men were unaffected.

They would still drink for free. But what about the other six? The paying customers?

How could they divide the £20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share?

They realized that £20 divided by six is £3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer.

So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by a higher percentage the poorer he was, to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using, and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay.

And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% saving).

The sixth now paid £2 instead of £3 (33% saving).

The seventh now paid £5 instead of £7 (28% saving).

The eighth now paid £9 instead of £12 (25% saving).

The ninth now paid £14 instead of £18 (22% saving).

The tenth now paid £49 instead of £59 (16% saving).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings.

"I only got a pound out of the £20 saving," declared the sixth man.

He pointed to the tenth man, "but he got £10!"

"Yeah, that’s right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a pound too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!"

"That’s true!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get £10 back, when I got only £2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison, "we didn't get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!"

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and government ministers, is how our tax system works.

The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the most benefit from a tax reduction.

Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore.

In fact, they might start drinking overseas, where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics.

For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.
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Old 07 December 2010, 21:45   #2
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Very, very good ...
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Old 07 December 2010, 22:31   #3
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Could do with having that printed in our local paper for our politicians to see. Very apt in the current climate here.
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I think it's more likely that the tenth man actually sits there drinking loads of beer that he bought cheaply whilst abroad, happily enjoying all the comforts of the pub but making no contribution at all!
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Or the tenth man owns the brewery (the banks) which most of the tax revenue goes to support.
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Or the tenth man owns the brewery (the banks) which most of the tax revenue goes to support.
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I think it's more likely that the tenth man actually sits there drinking loads of beer that he bought cheaply whilst abroad, happily enjoying all the comforts of the pub but making no contribution at all!

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Old 09 December 2010, 10:02   #8
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Hmm! The revenue send me a bill every year, although I don't remember employing them to do any work for me!
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The bloke with the readies would no doubt be organising it because........ he'd be the one hanging on to the reciept at the end of the night to claim as a business expense....no tax at all.
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Old 09 December 2010, 16:50   #10
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The new simplified US IRS form:

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How much did you make last year?

Send it in.

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the dreaded tax

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hellow there
i read your story with interest as i know all them men ha ha maybe im one of them but not every day can you tell me a simular story about ireland tax now because i really cant figure whats happening hear and i think it needs to be simplefied for the fools like me to understand what the f-- is going on
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hellow there
i read your story with interest as i know all them men ha ha maybe im one of them but not every day can you tell me a simular story about ireland tax now because i really cant figure whats happening hear and i think it needs to be simplefied for the fools like me to understand what the f-- is going on
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......Simple, you allow large corporations to pay very low taxes, then when your tax income generated doesn't cover your liabilities you ask all the drinkers to chip and save the whole place going up in flames. You only accept the 'help' on the condition big corporations were still allowed to pay low taxes.
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