land rover

stedj · 18 March 2006, 17:26

ok guys and girls, im in the mood for a change, getting rid of the merc and concidering a landrover disco or an audi a6 avant [estate] quattro tdi . i now a little of the audi as my brother has one but no nowt of the discos [apart from the ones i do 4 a living]. buget is 8- 12k .i will be useing it as a general car towing the boat and mybe a bit of offroad as a beginer . any advice welcome got to be diesel wat to look out for good and bad cheers ste

stedj · 18 March 2006, 17:37

come on codders

Daniel TD5 · 18 March 2006, 18:55

hi stedj

about 12k will get you a nice series two TD5 with the upgrated lights
es/gs model any lower will be series two square head lights 8 k is the top end 300TDI model range

what to watch out for
1.rear air cambers and pumps ASP
2.ABS faults
3. driver heated seat and heated screen
2. any thing that don,t work

full dealer history low miles a must

its a landrover its going to full to bits and cost the earth pic of my 2005 defender front seals after 6 thousand miles and its need a new water pump
that leaks as well

good luck

Dan TD5

Nate · 18 March 2006, 19:02

IMHO you can't do better than turning Japanese - Toyota Land Cruiser with the 4.2 diesel - lovely!

ADS · 18 March 2006, 19:11

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Originally Posted by Nate

IMHO you can't do better than turning Japanese - Toyota Land Cruiser with the 4.2 diesel - lovely!

Technically Japanese 4x4s are probably more reliable, will do higher mileages and give their owners an easy life. However, they aren't Landrovers and generally haev very little character which is what you get with a Landy

Daniel TD5 · 18 March 2006, 19:12

i had a l200 warrior which was a bit bling but 40 thousand mile in two years
and not a bean went wrong just add fuel and service auto or have a look at

new shogun 3.2di auto

ads have you seen the new defender advert posters only. shows a speedo clock with millions of miles

must be a series three or early defender 200tdi

codprawn · 18 March 2006, 19:13

TD5 auto low miles - they are lovely to drive and VERY good offroad. They are pretty quick for a diesel but if you want more power they respond well to chipping.

They can suffer from gremlins but with some TLC will last forever.

Was talking to a bloke last week who uses a TD5 Defender to deliver boats all over Europe. He uses massive trailers and his last Defender did 165,000 miles in 2 years with no faults!!!

Daniel TD5 · 18 March 2006, 19:23

coprawn

sorry mate its a defender but its a total rip off 26k with the vat for the xs double cab leaks like the met police. heater is crap designed by the bloke that build the ark at least that had no leaks

but it looks cool green wellies and all old chap

codprawn · 18 March 2006, 19:54

Defender heater IS crap but Discovery's isn't!!!

Mate of mine did Gap Road in all the snow in his new £400 RangeRover - it is obviously a wreck at that price but it rescued a lot of prepared other make 4x4s. I wish I could have made it!!!

The TD5 auto I had did Gap several times no probs!!!

And to prove it again - notice stuck quad - it is a lot steeper than itb looks!!!

codprawn · 18 March 2006, 19:55

And they hold their value REALLY well......

stedj · 18 March 2006, 20:12

auto or manual and wat r the engine options

codprawn · 18 March 2006, 20:18

Auto best but bit thirstier. V8 is ultimate but 16mpg - diesel about 26mpg (same as shogun).

TD5 is a 5 cylinder 2.5 turbo - think it's about 138bhp normally - 198bhp chipped. I found the standard one was reasonably quick - would cruise M4 100mph no probs - auto I had.

Hugh Jardon · 18 March 2006, 20:21

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Auto best but bit thirstier. V8 is ultimate but 16mpg - diesel about 26mpg (same as shogun).

TD5 is a 5 cylinder 2.5 turbo - think it's about 138bhp normally - 198bhp chipped. I found the standard one was reasonably quick - would cruise M4 100mph no probs - auto I had.

you only get 198 hp if you chip and include intercooler cx option

otherwise they chip to 160-170 ish

Daniel TD5 · 18 March 2006, 20:23

v8 auto only

TD5 manual or auto

300 tdi auto or manual

auto box is best but some problems most want auto coprawn s reg 300 tdi
looks a bit good last of the old model

try a 300tdi es or TD5 GS5 no air lift on the five seater

have a look on ebay they have them all

dan

codprawn · 18 March 2006, 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel TD5

v8 auto only

TD5 manual or auto

300 tdi auto or manual

auto box is best but some problems most want auto coprawn s reg 300 tdi
looks a bit good last of the old model

try a 300tdi es or TD5 GS5 no air lift on the five seater

have a look on ebay they have them all

dan

Yes my 300tdi is totally mint - just put a towhitch on it - so clean underneath it looks 2 yrs old not 8!!!

Got to be honest the 300tdi engine is great offroad but not as refined as the TD5 onroad.

If mine was a V8 though I don't think you could tell the difference between it and the newer shape vehicle.

Alice · 18 March 2006, 23:34

The Discovery appreciation gang make me smile. It always goes " Discoverys are great, but........." then you get a list of all the stuff that breaks or falls off. Is this not a bit of a contradiction? Are we not confusing poor quality and unreliability with "Character" and "Fun"?

TJ101 · 18 March 2006, 23:48

Its a Landrover thing !!!

Defender out of choice !!!

osprey__viper · 19 March 2006, 00:00

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Auto best but bit thirstier. V8 is ultimate but 16mpg - diesel about 26mpg (same as shogun).

TD5 is a 5 cylinder 2.5 turbo - think it's about 138bhp normally - 198bhp chipped. I found the standard one was reasonably quick - would cruise M4 100mph no probs - auto I had.

Or a V8 with a gas conversion

codprawn · 19 March 2006, 02:19

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Originally Posted by Alice

The Discovery appreciation gang make me smile. It always goes " Discoverys are great, but........." then you get a list of all the stuff that breaks or falls off. Is this not a bit of a contradiction? Are we not confusing poor quality and unreliability with "Character" and "Fun"?

Well nothing has broken or fallen off any of my LandRovers!!!

codprawn · 19 March 2006, 02:20

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Originally Posted by osprey__viper

Or a V8 with a gas conversion

VERY good point - if you find a V8 Disco with a quality gas conversion you are laughing!!!