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19 September 2018, 22:58
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Manners
Ok it may just be an age thing, or maybe be a rib thing as it's not something I see so much of on fishing forums. For me if I was to ask info on something I consider it just a natural response to thank those who take time to respond with info and even links etc. Do others consider it manners to thank these days?
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19 September 2018, 23:29
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Originally Posted by jonp
Ok it may just be an age thing, or maybe be a rib thing as it's not something I see so much of on fishing forums. For me if I was to ask info on something I consider it just a natural response to thank those who take time to respond with info and even links etc. Do others consider it manners to thank these days?
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Without a doubt. If I ask for help on here I always thank the guys that took the time to come back with their comments and help.
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20 September 2018, 06:45
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Originally Posted by jonp
Ok it may just be an age thing, or maybe be a rib thing as it's not something I see so much of on fishing forums. For me if I was to ask info on something I consider it just a natural response to thank those who take time to respond with info and even links etc. Do others consider it manners to thank these days?
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I think its an age / sign of the times thing. In the age of Digital Assistants (Siri, Alexa,Google etc) there’s no need for Please & Thank You, & that filters down. My Missus’ school has a policy where if you don’t say please, you don’t get. It’s done wonders for my manners[emoji57]
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20 September 2018, 07:49
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Originally Posted by jonp
Ok it may just be an age thing, or maybe be a rib thing as it's not something I see so much of on fishing forums. For me if I was to ask info on something I consider it just a natural response to thank those who take time to respond with info and even links etc. Do others consider it manners to thank these days?
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You've seen the same thing I have then. I see two main categories of wretchedness. One is the low post count member who has joined the forum to ask a specific question, never thank and sometimes don't even log in again. They're treating RIBnet like Google, as Dave says. Two is the regular poster who asks a question and then argues with and insults the people who have taken the time to reply. You know who you are!!
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20 September 2018, 10:22
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upbringing & respect is the problem IMO sadly getting worse, but the seeds you sow today for the harvest tomorrow is of your own doing.
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20 September 2018, 10:40
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Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g
upbringing & respect is the problem IMO sadly getting worse, but the seeds you sow today for the harvest tomorrow is of your own doing.
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Just another example of the systematic breakdown in (prodominatly Western) society" ...All important Language/communication skills ...Manners and Respect for individuals AND institutions.
It will for sure be "re-booted" at some point...but what form and at what price!..AND in which Languages! ...remains to be seen
Sincere Thanks for your post!
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20 September 2018, 10:52
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Thanks for the reply's
I must admit I wouldn't of been surprised to of seen a comment saying if you don't like it "on your bike "
I must admit it makes me feel less like contributing but the above comments have helped show it's not something I'm alone on.
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20 September 2018, 11:25
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The annoyance for me are the posters that ask a question & then don't let us know if they've fixed the problem.
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20 September 2018, 13:24
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Not unique to ribnet – but a common stance that many people take which makes me chuckle, if you own one, been on your friends one, saw a picture of one in a mag, its the BEST, no matter what anyone says different – however weak the owners argument, oblivious of facts, figures and advice from people that KNOW – screw logic, theirs is categorically, emphatically the BEST!
Prime example - the chap a week or so ago on Rib.net trying to defend a particular AWB and how good they were in seas ( he’d been on his mates one so it MUST be the best boat in the world! lol ), not interested in any reason or experience from other forum members, why would he, his example must be superior to anything else on the water, just because he’d sat on one……………………………...lol
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20 September 2018, 14:05
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Originally Posted by willk
One is the low post count member who has joined the forum to ask a specific question, never thank and sometimes don't even log in again. They're treating RIBnet like Google, as Dave says. Two is the regular poster who asks a question and then argues with and insults the people who have taken the time to reply. You know who you are!!
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Yep, I agree on both counts.
One recently left the regulars discussing the merits of certain brands, whilst the OP disappeared in to the ether without as much as a kiss my @rse.
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20 September 2018, 15:20
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Please sir can I have more thank you [emoji23][emoji23][emoji4][emoji4]
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20 September 2018, 22:20
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Town: Aberdeenshire
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Unfortunately jonp I think this lack of courtesy pervades not just through online forums, but in everyday life too. I was brought up in the 70s where a hard work ethic was instilled in you from an early age. There were boundaries and expectations.
Back to the site, with repetitive questions on Ribnet that a Google search or Alexa could easily answer then there's nothing wrong with pointing people back to the search facility so that they can do their research, then drill down to specifics if they can't find what they are looking for. That sorts the wheat from the chaff so-to-speak, and hopefully you get a thank you at the end of it.
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21 September 2018, 09:55
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Town: A large rock
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I wonder what makes us feel so annoyed when we don't get a thank you? It's only two words, and it doesn't improve the advice you've given for the recipient. Perhaps it's some some form of sub-conscious ego-boost that we have been indoctrinated to expect. Similarly, what makes modern society less concerned about receiving gratitude? Perhaps modern society is so solipsistic that they don't think anyone owes them anything and by reverse don't feel the need to offer it back. Personally I think it's nice to say thank you but I'm not sure I really know why.
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21 September 2018, 10:38
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
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Originally Posted by Erin
.......Perhaps modern society is so solipsistic.......
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I had to Google that[emoji6]
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21 September 2018, 11:13
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So did I, but I am not sure what the answer means
Solipsism is the philosophical idea that only one's own mind is sure to exist. As an epistemological position, solipsism holds that knowledge of anything outside one's own mind is unsure; the external world and other minds cannot be known and might not exist outside the mind. Wikipedia
Hang on while I now look up "epistemological".
Aha, so thats what it means:
Epistemology is the branch of philosophy concerned with the theory of knowledge. Epistemology studies the nature of knowledge, justification, and the rationality of belief. Wikipedia
Not quite sure that I am any further forward to be honest.
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21 September 2018, 11:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
I had to Google that[emoji6]
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aye me too,good word that just got to work on pronouncing it now
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21 September 2018, 11:41
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Town: Norfolk/Suffolk Borders
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Well Erin & Brian , thanks very much for those last two contributions , but any more of that and I'm off to Facebook......
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21 September 2018, 11:55
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Member
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Town: South Yorks
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Originally Posted by Bern Hanreck
Well Erin & Brian , thanks very much for those last two contributions , but any more of that and I'm off to Facebook......
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Where’s the “like” button[emoji57]?
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21 September 2018, 14:49
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Member
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Town: A large rock
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My simplified understanding of its meaning is 'the doctrine of believing only one's self exists or is important'.
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21 September 2018, 14:52
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I've not seen a manners issue on here?
You lot should get back in your box and button it.
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