Missed the tide... no problem!

spartacus · 08 October 2011, 23:16

This guy has obviously done this before. Frankly I thought it was going to sink like a stone! Kid's comments are priceless!

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martini · 08 October 2011, 23:20

The frenchies did something similar with my boat in Paris, slightly unconventional

Hightower · 09 October 2011, 00:19

Need a strong trailer for doing that

Pete7 · 09 October 2011, 00:21

As taught by our very own Dave Mallet at Wavelength Training for launching at Knots End. A very strong tide across the slip means this is the better way of doing it.

Pete

http://www.wavelengthtraining.co.uk/

Boats&Outboards · 09 October 2011, 00:23

1) not sure I'd fancy dunking my motor like that to launch it

2) I'd like to see him recover it that way

Funny though

Peter ~ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007

Pete7 · 09 October 2011, 00:43

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Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards

1) not sure I'd fancy dunking my motor like that to launch it

2) I'd like to see him recover it that way

Funny though

Well, hear what you are saying, but if an outboard won't take a bit of a splash over the engine cowl it has no place to be on a boat at sea.

They recover the same way, drive onto the trailer clip on the winch line and winch away.

Pete

Boats&Outboards · 09 October 2011, 20:05

Agree to a point but the slip is to his right so why bother ? Can only assume it's to not get his trailer wet in which case you could argue if it's not fit to go it and out of the water it has no place being under a boat either!

Oh no what have I started now

1,2,3,4

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Bigmuz7 · 09 October 2011, 20:34

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Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards

Oh no what have I started now 1,2,3,4

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Originally Posted by Pete7

Well, hear what you are saying, but if an outboard won't take a bit of a splash over the engine cowl it has no place to be on a boat at sea.

I agree though .. dumping the expensive bit right into the Briney cant be a good plan

if its just to save your trailer

Ruari 29 · 09 October 2011, 20:34

I ve just been watching all the other clips that came up after that clip "boat launch fail" God - some idots out there!

osprey__viper · 09 October 2011, 21:00

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Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards

Agree to a point but the slip is to his right so why bother ? Can only assume it's to not get his trailer wet in which case you could argue if it's not fit to go it and out of the water it has no place being under a boat either!

Oh no what have I started now

1,2,3,4

Peter ~ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007

The slip finishes by the pole.

I have witnessed first hand Dave launching and recovering there. A proper sight to see

Poly · 09 October 2011, 21:01

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Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards

Agree to a point but the slip is to his right so why bother ? Can only assume it's to not get his trailer wet in which case you could argue if it's not fit to go it and out of the water it has no place being under a boat either!

Oh no what have I started now

1,2,3,4

Peter ~ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007

Most people would say boat trailers aren't really fit for purpose though. I've actually seen the rnli launch a 75 pretty much like this when another boat was obstructing the slip.

Boats&Outboards · 09 October 2011, 21:17

Agreed but I'd rather the trailer take the wear than a 8k motor. Especially a Honda which do not seem to age that well anyway! Yes it's a watertight sealed hood but even so the last thing I'd want is saltwater floating around the engine when I'm about to fire it up. It only takes a loose hood to take out your day on the water.

The trailer can always get new brakes, not so easy to get new pistons

Peter ~ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007

wavelength · 09 October 2011, 22:15

go on---admit it you've been waiting for me haven't ya!
the guy is just a tad too far up the slip with the trailer. Needs a bit more practise.

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Can only assume it's to not get his trailer wet

shouldn't jump to conclusions

That slip is not usually the pussycat you see there. At certain stages of the tide there can be 4knots across it with a few BIG standing waves which are impossible to launch through, also the angle of the slip is very shallow at certain parts.
Under the surface are some lovely bollards to take your gelcoat off. Oh yes and a dogleg in the slipway to walk off like the jetskier did last weekend

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I'd like to see him recover it that way

here ya go then
http://www.rib.net/forum/f16/retriev...side-1218.html

we rarely recover like that, there are obvious dangers, usually borne of necessity if we get caught with some bad weather at a bad state of tide because this slip is Very exposed to the prevailing wind.
BUT we often recover over the side by winch alone with one guy holding a stern rope to keep it at the right angle to the trailer once the bow is in the jaws.

Don't like it?? Knott End is not for you then. All the guys who know which end of the boat is which launch over the side at this venue. I can go down there, jack-knife our 6m rib, slide it off, tie it up safe and go park the car on my own with relative ease and incidentally still with dry boots.
We also have another pass time at Knott End.. sitting on the sea wall and watching the antics of those who know far better than us-excellent entertainment except for the damage to perfectly good boats, not infrequently people, and on several occasions folk swept into the water hanging onto their boat. Requiring one of us to go launch a boat over the side and recover them.

Damage to engine??--sold that 5.5 in the pics last year to the local coastguard lads when their cg boat was withdrawn. Been used there since 2001 on inumerable boat courses..original engine, original trailer and original wheel bearings and its all running sweet as the proverbial nut.
However that trailer had been dunked - at Knott End and all around the UK from the south coast to the west coast of Scotland ..but we did look after the hubs on that one.

Boats&Outboards · 09 October 2011, 22:34

5,6,7,8,9,10

I stand corrected. Wall not quite at same height drop on the recovery though which was my point. Local knowledge clearly wins here but like you say I'd have thought getting the height a little lower by dropping further down the slip would make more sense.

No idea of the area so I guess it's a case of do what the locals do and hope your not following the village idiot!

Peter ~ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007

wavelength · 09 October 2011, 22:56

problem with getting the height right is that we had 10.5 or so metre tide last week,( neaps are 7metres ish) ..so its got to move 30 odd feet of water in the ebb or flood and it doesn't hang about. By the time you've got out of the car the level ain't what it was when you stopped.

Glad we made an impression Mr Viper....what you up to these days?

whisper · 09 October 2011, 23:15

I have read about this 'Over the side' launching here:

http://www.ribevents.com/site/boatte...r_the_side.pdf

wavelength · 09 October 2011, 23:31

damn fine bit of prose there on that link

Bigmuz7 · 10 October 2011, 07:48

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Originally Posted by wavelength

problem with getting the height right is that we had 10.5 or so metre tide last week,( neaps are 7metres ish)

Aye ... those Islay and Jura punters dont know how easy they've got it

wavelength · 10 October 2011, 13:16

two stroke mick · 10 October 2011, 14:25

I have used that method once, but the water into which the boat was going was too shallow as a result I took a nice lump from the keel of boat the the transom. Not serious but very annoyed with my self for getting it wrong.