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Old 17 September 2004, 18:56   #81
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i all ways get left behind with my 40hp and now a new l200 out 2005/6

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Old 17 September 2004, 18:59   #82
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This unreliability thing about Land Rovers really gets me - at the moment I have a Vauxhall Signum THING sitting outside my house waiting for AVIS to collect and swop - I have also had problems with Audi's - VWs - BMWs etc etc - and what do I use when I am stuck? My old 1987 ex police 110 V8 - it never lets me down and never leaks or uses oil.

My neighbours hate it because they say it's ugly but I love it to bits. It had a really hard life with the police who used it for chasing joyriders across the mountains and pulling 38 tonne trucks off the M4 - then a Doctor had it and it was used for pulling big boats up and down a long - wet - sandy beach and I have used it for lots of serious offroading!

Only probs are the doors are rotten but they still work!!! I service it myself every 6,000 miles and never rev the engine much until it's warm (not long with V8).
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Old 17 September 2004, 19:02   #83
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Yeah I use to do it at about 4-5 times a month ... you know, moving diggers around.. not on Motorway I might add , and not over 35 mph

Have now bought a truck..... because my luck was going to run out sometime... It was OK thought.... stoping was the one to watch thought..... I Park my digger in a yard with a 300 yard 30deg slope out of it..... and no distance to get a run at it... L200 pulled it up everytime..... low ratio though.
Well, that hardly qualifies as 'Towing' in the way a manufacturer specifies their vehicles. A Land Rover will tow 3500kg or 4500kg with coupled brakes, thats way in excess of what an L200 could do (legally) I have pulled full 8YD skips around site but its not 'Towing'

To count as towing it would have to be able to tow its full specified weight with a normal compliment of passangers at normal road speeds and be able to stop...
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Old 17 September 2004, 19:03   #84
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Simple...Land Rovers obviously hold their price better than Jap cars.
There are many parallels between LR owners, and your average RIB owner! based mainly on blind faith and lack of knowledge (and a bit of urban myth), these same qualities falsely uphold the price of both commodities.
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Old 17 September 2004, 19:09   #85
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There are many parallels between LR owners, and your average RIB owner! based mainly on blind faith and lack of knowledge (and a bit of urban myth), these same qualities falsely uphold the price of both commodities.
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Whats this...cross forum nagging
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Old 17 September 2004, 19:11   #86
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Don't flatter yourself! As I said in the post, just my very humble opinion.
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Old 17 September 2004, 19:12   #87
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Well, that hardly qualifies as 'Towing' in the way a manufacturer specifies their vehicles. A Land Rover will tow 3500kg or 4500kg with coupled brakes, thats way in excess of what an L200 could do (legally) I have pulled full 8YD skips around site but its not 'Towing'

To count as towing it would have to be able to tow its full specified weight with a normal compliment of passangers at normal road speeds and be able to stop...

YEAH YEAH WHATEVER ... if its behind you .. and you are connected to it with a tow hitch ... on a road or field or mountan ..... and you are moving .... YOU ARE TOWING ..... it not hard to understand .....

I Towed J24 about 1400 miles in one go (2drivers) and I regulary do 100+mile trips with Boats , trailers ( Minium I tow is about 1200kg) etc ..... and ON IRISH ROADS ... we dont have a whole lot of motorways here ....
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Old 17 September 2004, 19:19   #88
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seeing my company are fire protection engineers i could just get
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Old 17 September 2004, 19:26   #89
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Don't flatter yourself! As I said in the post, just my very humble opinion.
I wasn't refering to me...I can't be nagged..I resigned
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Old 17 September 2004, 19:35   #90
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The good thing in a diccussion like this, is that, when the other side starts flining insults .... you know you have won!!!!! ........Just face facts ... you Brits cant build cars , jeeps or trucks for peanuts, leave it to the Germans and the Japs :
I think that probably means we've won then! An ironic statement indeed from an inhabitant of a country famous for.....errrr, oh yes, winning the Eurovision song contest. And of course for breeding pikey scum.
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Old 17 September 2004, 19:39   #91
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seeing my company are fire protection engineers i could just get
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Nah you want one of these - often see them for sale for about £5000 - very low milage as well.

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Old 17 September 2004, 19:51   #92
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I think that probably means we've won then! An ironic statement indeed from an inhabitant of a country famous for.....errrr, oh yes, winning the Eurovision song contest. And of course for breeding pikey scum.
Dont forget DeLorean
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Ooops, silly me! I should also perhaps have mentioned Kerrygold butter
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Nah you want one of these - often see them for sale for about £5000 - very low milage as well.

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No you feckin' don't. We used to have one and it was a feckin' bitch to drive. They threw 'em away and gave us Chevies......which were even worse....
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There are many parallels between LR owners, and your average RIB owner! based mainly on blind faith and lack of knowledge (and a bit of urban myth), these same qualities falsely uphold the price of both commodities.
(IMVHO)
Oi feck' off FGT... we're just havin' a little squabble here... we know what LR faults are.. well we should do, if we own one..or two.. Go and play with the "Hard" boys.. an leave us "softies" alone...
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No you feckin' don't. We used to have one and it was a feckin' bitch to drive. They threw 'em away and gave us Chevies......which were even worse....
I suppose a few hundred gallons of water sloshing about does nothing for the handling then?

I have driven a 6 wheel Rangie and thought it was great but not a crash tender version!
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just to prove i am a landrover fan

this is my old baby when landrover were the the best 4x4 by far

1982 ex hm coast guard fully restored by me for show blues and two
1985 V8 90 don,t get any of them any more this was ex met police
with upgrades

it make you think i must say the ex coast guard one was the best car i ever
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Old 17 September 2004, 20:17   #98
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Series Land Rovers were just so right for putting a winch on - in between the wings and behind the bumper - what a great idea! And no need for crappy checker plate on wings and bonnet - they are strong enough anyway!

Mate has an ex Army SIII called Monty that we love to bits - it is so tough and rugged - just hose down inside and out after use - roof and doors off if we get a summer - very much like a RIB I suppose!
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They arnt even comparable, not in the same league, Jap stuff is over engineered, r and d backed, thouroughly tested, you can just picture them in the Defender factory bolting on the exhaust when the dinner bell goes and coming back after lunch and starting something else before finishing the last thing!


WONKA BAR TECHNOLOGY

If you dont believe me do a google search on landrover defender faults

http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/ecars/L...ch/Faults.html

or if you are sitting down read this one
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They arnt even comparable, not in the same league, Jap stuff is over engineered,THEY HAVE CART SPRINGS? r and d backed,VINTAGE ENGINES? thouroughly tested BEEN MAKING THE SAME MODEL FOR 20 YEARS, you can just picture them in the Defender factory bolting on the exhaust when the dinner bell goes and coming back after lunch and starting something else before finishing the last thing!


WONKA BAR TECHNOLOGY JAP CRAP...

If you dont believe me do a google search on landrover defender faults

http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/ecars/L...ch/Faults.html
this site is in Australia Wonka ,they make their own
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