My new Tonka toy!

[Phil Davies]

yeah, but I love 'em, too

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by Phil Davies

Which is precisely what they said about the new Range Rover. Mine covered the first 12,000 miles entirely trouble free, since when it has had close on £3,000 worth of warranty work undertaken in 8,000 miles! An acquaintance of mine had his first one virtually rebuilt with 48 registered faults on it Indeed, HR Owen have only just delivered my RR back today after fitting four new tyres.....under warranty because, and I quote, 'the 4-wheel drive system has worn the outside edge of the tyres in such a way as to induce excessive road noise' Oh, and they had to replace the rear brake discs on the same visit which had warped, presumably because I'd braked too hard And all this after publicising the fact they'd spent £5 billion developing it!

I wonder sometimes if the dealers don't make work for themselves deliberately??? Did YOU actually notice a problem with the tyres??? As to the warped discs did you have a bad judder or did they say you did???

Mine is currently on 48,000 miles with no problem although sometimes I get a minor niggle with the alarm imobilising the car when I want to start it - just turn everything off - lock and unlock the doors and away to go.

As I said before when we used to hire loads of vehicles they nearly all had problems - even the Audis and VWs!!!

My old Rover 420 tdi which has been reduced to being a spare company hack is now on 149,000 miles and is still going strong - no problems at all and just as nice to drive as the A4s and Passats I had on hire - SERIOUSLY!!! Does 48mpg as well.........

[Kernow Buoy]

So quite how the new Disco, which has had less time and money spent on its development, costs £25,000 less than a Range Rover, has controversial styling to say the least, and has had no design input from German engineers, is going to cure all Land Rover's problems, I fail to understand.

The new Discovery is the first Land Rover produced under the Ford management team, that's how.

The Octavia won its category, The Discovery was the overall winner.

Now lets not get carried away here, I think it's great, but I'd still rather have a Rib and walk to work

[Nick Hearne]

If I had wanted a reliable car I would have gone for the Nissan Pathfinder but for me it was not a patch on the Disco bought with my heart not my head!
I love it!
Nick

[philip]

Originally Posted by Nick Hearne

...... bought with my heart not my head!

Ditto

Bought this in Jan this year.

I have absolutely no rational / logical explanation - I'm chuffed to bits with it

[Phil Davies]

Originally Posted by codprawn

I wonder sometimes if the dealers don't make work for themselves deliberately??? Did YOU actually notice a problem with the tyres??? As to the warped discs did you have a bad judder or did they say you did???

They don't willingly undertake warranty work because Land Rover tuck them up on the hours they allow them on specific jobs and of course they don't make any profit on the parts. When they replaced my front diff (after 13,000 miles ) Land Rover charged themselves just £200 for the whole part!

You bet I noticed the tyre problem, sounds like a badly worn wheel bearing! HR Owen told me it's a recognised problem but there's no fix for it. It can become evident at as little as 12,000 miles. Apparently they've only had complaints from V8 customers because the diesel customers can't hear the tyres above the sound of the engine Re. the discs, yes there was a discernible judder. By the way, how are you doing on brake pads? Mine were replaced at 15,000 miles and evidently that's not uncommon.

[eupa]

another one duped. Why did you buy that can of rubbish??
Just tell me in 6 months - how many times will it back to the garage under warranty

jonathan

[philip]

Originally Posted by eupa

another one duped. Why did you buy that can of rubbish??

Ahh - At least I can find some comfort in the knowledge that I'm not the only one incapable of rational / logical explanation.

Thanks for those kind words

[Nick Hearne]

Originally Posted by eupa

another one duped. Why did you buy that can of rubbish??
Just tell me in 6 months - how many times will it back to the garage under warranty

jonathan

Well I like my can of rubbish as you call it, I have changes from a merc E240 which is supposed to be a very good car (which I would agree with) & the new Disco is even better to nicer to drive!
That car would you chose & what car do you drive?
Nick

[eupa]

I make no bones about it - A KIA SORENTO 200 hp (LPG) - WHY?
( in belgium LPG at 25 p a liter)

Because it is cheap AND EXCELLENT BUILD QUALITY
and it costs practically nothing in maintenanace
AND
can tow 2800 kgs which your Discovery or your Range Rrover cannot do
legally.

I use to have an A6 but this kia knocks the spots of it and the BM X3 or XL costs 2.5 times as much.

You can always trade yours in for something decent

Jonathan

[Nick Hearne]

Originally Posted by eupa

I make no bones about it - A KIA SORENTO 200 hp (LPG) - WHY?
( in belgium LPG at 25 p a liter)

Because it is cheap AND EXCELLENT BUILD QUALITY
and it costs practically nothing in maintenanace
AND
can tow 2800 kgs which your Discovery or your Range Rrover cannot do
legally.

I use to have an A6 but this kia knocks the spots of it and the BM X3 or XL costs 2.5 times as much.

You can always trade yours in for something decent

Jonathan

Well I never It says 3500 Kgs in all the LR literature! What do you know that land Rover don't?

KIA SORENTO hum well I wont be as rude as you but not for me I will stick with the Discovery!

[eupa]

Well - plesae inform how much you paid for your can of rubbish and what you got?
You are probable right on the 3500 kgs bit as I was referring to the Belgium market where they have down-rated it to some 2200 kgs.

Give you a race any day- anywhere?

Jonathan

[Nick Hearne]

Well if you are happy in your little car good for you!
I'm very happy with mine, but if I had have got a Kia I would have always been left wanting something better!
I also reckon I could sell the Land rover for that I paid there as you I think would be Lucky to get back half!

[eupa]

getting a bit touchy are we??


The dfference compared to what I paid and what you paid for basically to do the same job could feed all the starving children in Sudan for quite a long tiime.

Now you are missing the point - I have had 4 range rovers in my liife and a discovery which lasted three months. I bet you have never been in a Sorento - if you had ,you would not have brought your can of rubbish - and if you are talikng about the V6 diesel - dont forget its a Peugeot engine and
they do have probelms with it.

jonatan

[Nick Hearne]

[Jono]

Originally Posted by eupa

.... I was referring to the Belgium market where they have down-rated it to some 2200 kgs.


Jonathan

You absolutely sure about that? Try Landrover.com/be and tell me what it says there... my french is a little rusty.........and just double checked....I can up-rate my LR to 4000KG towing....

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by eupa

Well - plesae inform how much you paid for your can of rubbish and what you got?
You are probable right on the 3500 kgs bit as I was referring to the Belgium market where they have down-rated it to some 2200 kgs.

Give you a race any day- anywhere?

Jonathan

How about the Roman road running through the Brecon Beacons???

Never heard ANYONE talk such crap in all my life!!!

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by Phil Davies

They don't willingly undertake warranty work because Land Rover tuck them up on the hours they allow them on specific jobs and of course they don't make any profit on the parts. When they replaced my front diff (after 13,000 miles ) Land Rover charged themselves just £200 for the whole part!

You bet I noticed the tyre problem, sounds like a badly worn wheel bearing! HR Owen told me it's a recognised problem but there's no fix for it. It can become evident at as little as 12,000 miles. Apparently they've only had complaints from V8 customers because the diesel customers can't hear the tyres above the sound of the engine Re. the discs, yes there was a discernible judder. By the way, how are you doing on brake pads? Mine were replaced at 15,000 miles and evidently that's not uncommon.

Funnily enough the Freelander also has similar tyre wear problems - thats what you get with fancy new drivetrains - my E reg 110's BFGs last about 90,000 miles!!!

I haven't noticed unusual tyre wear but mine only last 10,000 miles anyway - not unusual the way I drive around roundabouts!!!

No probs with brakepads but then I do use the autobox like a manual - change down for corners and downhill etc etc - ALL autos use brakes a lot more if you just leave them in D.

As to quality have you heard the probs people get with Mercs these days??? Just read a test on a new Merc vs BMW6 vs XJ8 - Merc had gearbox probs and loads of electrical trouble - for example turn the radio up and the horn would sound etc etc!!!

[Kernow Buoy]

The dfference compared to what I paid and what you paid for basically to do the same job could feed all the starving children in Sudan for quite a long tiime

Wow, well done Eupa, so how much exactly did you send to the Sudan?

Why did you buy that can of rubbish??

I see that someone on another thread yesterday implied that you need to 'get a life', I'd take their advice!

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by Kernow

Wow, well done Eupa, so how much exactly did you send to the Sudan?



I see that someone on another thread yesterday implied that you need to 'get a life', I'd take their advice!

By the way he said he would vote for Tony Blair - says it all really!!!!