Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 31 January 2014, 13:43   #21
RIBnet admin team
 
willk's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,912
Quote:
Originally Posted by indaba1991 View Post
And you are right - wiki is really not the place to base all your judgements
Yes, especially when the wiki link he used states:

"The phrase "Pan-pan Medico" is used in some older reference books, but is no longer in official use"

In the interests of keeping this discussion civil, I'm going to check this one with some current SRC course providers (like SPR ) and I'll run it past one of our MRCC Heads. I'll report back with the current accepted procedure.

Scotsnomad, welcome to RIBnet. Your previous employment will give you insights that I'm sure we will be glad to learn from. However, arriving fresh and laying down the law is going to upset people. I don't see anything definitive in your links (I have some equally wishy-washy links that say Medico is "gone") and I'd prefer this debate didn't sink into Does-doesn't territory.
__________________
.
willk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 January 2014, 14:28   #22
Member
 
Country: Other
Length: no boat
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 476
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by willk View Post

I'm going to check this one with some current SRC course providers (like SPR ) and I'll run it past one of our MRCC Heads. I'll report back with the current accepted procedure.
You will need to go back to 1998 Wilk when it was officially stopped. The phrase was only ever used in UK waters anyway. This change was more to do with the GPO who used to handle the phone links - they gave way to the new technology of call handling. The RYA and other bodies only followed this up after 2001.
__________________
- "No matter how big the sea may be, sometimes two ships meet".
indaba1991 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 January 2014, 14:47   #23
RIBnet admin team
 
willk's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,912
I'd like to be clear that I am simply attempting to bring peace and closure to this thread

So far, word is back from one SRC course provider. The first important point made was that the structure and support provided by PPMedico is still available. The second point was that the use of PPM is not currently taught under the CEPT SRC Syllabus: http://www.ecodocdb.dk/Docs/doc98/of...d/REC3104E.DOC

Medical issues are treated under Urgency Page 7 Section D1.2

The UK is a CEPT signatory.

Most importantly - if you call a PAN PAN MEDICO in UK waters, someone will help you.

PS: How am I doing here Poly? Another paragraph?
__________________
.
willk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 January 2014, 14:49   #24
RIBnet admin team
 
willk's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,912
The way I see it at the moment is that, unfortunately, you're ALL right...

That and if there's any more squabbling, someone is getting sent up to JK for a caning
__________________
.
willk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 January 2014, 14:49   #25
RIBnet admin team
 
Poly's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,632
Quote:
Originally Posted by willk View Post
PS: How am I doing here Poly? Another paragraph?
Was that a half hearted attempt at being a clone. You KNOW you need to try harder!
__________________
Poly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 January 2014, 14:53   #26
RIBnet admin team
 
willk's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,912
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly View Post
Was that a half hearted attempt at being a clone. You KNOW you need to try harder!
Oh no, I'm a self confessed dilettante...
__________________
.
willk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 January 2014, 15:55   #27
Member
 
jumpinjack's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Yarhoo
Make: Scorpion
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki 150
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 418
Pan pan medico was stopped, as stated when DSC become the norm.
See page 8 on the attached booklet for correct info on requesting radio medical advice in the UK.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/mca/mca_msi_le...for_print_.pdf
__________________
jumpinjack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 January 2014, 16:03   #28
Administrator
 
John Kennett's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Brighton
Length: 3m +
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 7,109
Ultimately though it doesn't matter either way. Pan Pan Medico may be deprecated, but it will still work. Old people will probably continue to remember it and may even use it from time to time, but youngsters just won't be taught it.

Not really worth shouting the odds about really.
__________________
John Kennett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 January 2014, 16:13   #29
Member
 
Country: Other
Length: no boat
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 476
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Kennett View Post
Old people will probably continue to remember it and may even use it from time to time, but youngsters just won't be taught it.
.
C'mon - admit it now John - you do not like these new fangled flare things and prefer a proper burning tar barrel on the deck.
__________________
- "No matter how big the sea may be, sometimes two ships meet".
indaba1991 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 January 2014, 16:18   #30
Member
 
jambo's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Girvan & Tayvallich
Boat name: Breawatch
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 150 F/stroke
MMSI: ex directory!!
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 6,203
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Kennett View Post
Ultimately though it doesn't matter either way. Pan Pan Medico may be deprecated, but it will still work. Old people will probably continue to remember it and may even use it from time to time, but youngsters just won't be taught it. Not really worth shouting the odds about really.

A big plus one to the words of reason at last. Thank you John once again!!

Sent from my iPhone using Rib.net
__________________
jambo
'Carpe Diem'
Member of the ebay Blue RIB cover club
Member of SABS ( Scottish West Division)
jambo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 January 2014, 16:31   #31
Administrator
 
John Kennett's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Brighton
Length: 3m +
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 7,109
Quote:
Originally Posted by indaba1991 View Post
C'mon - admit it now John - you do not like these new fangled flare things and prefer a proper burning tar barrel on the deck.
Indeed. There are so many more uses for a burning barrel of tar
__________________
John Kennett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 January 2014, 16:43   #32
RIBnet admin team
 
willk's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,912
Test post

Can anyone read this?
__________________
.
willk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 January 2014, 16:54   #33
SPR
Member
 
SPR's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Central Belt of Scotland
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,066
Quote:
Originally Posted by willk View Post
Can anyone read this?
no lol
__________________
SPRmarine / SPRtraining
RYA Training Courses & Safety Equipment Sales
SPR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 January 2014, 16:55   #34
RIBnet admin team
 
willk's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,912
Quote:
Originally Posted by SPR View Post
no lol
Fkkit I'm blind!
__________________
.
willk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 January 2014, 16:58   #35
Member
 
Pikey Dave's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,178
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by willk View Post
Fkkit I'm blind!
who said that, is somebody there?
__________________
Rule#2: Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level & then beat you with experience.
Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
Rule#4:Don't feed the troll
Pikey Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 January 2014, 17:18   #36
Member
 
kerny's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 7,078
RIBase
Send a message via Skype™ to kerny
Quote:
Originally Posted by indaba1991 View Post

Excuse me ! I resemble that!
well you are right
__________________
Member of S.A.B.S. (Lancashire Division)
kerny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 January 2014, 17:26   #37
Member
 
Country: Other
Length: no boat
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 476
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by kerny View Post
well you are right
Well spank me and call me Susan! And to think I was going to say complimentary things - like how lovely IMOGEN now looks! It will have to be "Looks too clean" etc now.
__________________
- "No matter how big the sea may be, sometimes two ships meet".
indaba1991 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 January 2014, 22:38   #38
Member
 
m chappelow's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: yorkshire
Boat name: little vicky
Make: avon ex RNLI
Length: 3m +
Engine: tohatsu
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,310
I thought that it fizzled out in general use for short range vhf when the GPO coast radio stations folded up as it was those that patched you via land line to the dedicated medical doctor or Hospital.
__________________
m chappelow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01 February 2014, 00:00   #39
Member
 
Country: Other
Length: no boat
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 476
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by m chappelow View Post
I thought that it fizzled out in general use for short range vhf when the GPO coast radio stations folded up as it was those that patched you via land line to the dedicated medical doctor or Hospital.
Absolutely correct - you may go straight to the top of the class and sharpen all the pencils!! (a big honour when I was at primary skool!)
__________________
- "No matter how big the sea may be, sometimes two ships meet".
indaba1991 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01 February 2014, 00:03   #40
SPR
Member
 
SPR's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Central Belt of Scotland
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,066
Quote:
Originally Posted by indaba1991 View Post
.... you may go straight to the top of the class and sharpen all the pencils!! (a big honour when I was at primary skool!)
A job with was full filling because at the end of the day it was not pointless ...

S.
__________________
SPRmarine / SPRtraining
RYA Training Courses & Safety Equipment Sales
SPR is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT. The time now is 17:37.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.