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Old 25 May 2013, 17:50   #1
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Passanger boat rescue 48 onboard

Well done to all those involved in the speedy rescue operation in Pembrokeshire today. Very well done I'd say.

BBC News - 48 people rescue from sinking boat near Skomer Island
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Old 26 May 2013, 07:38   #2
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Old 26 May 2013, 09:27   #4
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Was a little surprised myself. That size of craft would be limited to 12 PAX and two crew here.
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Old 26 May 2013, 14:38   #5
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Was a little surprised myself. That size of craft would be limited to 12 PAX and two crew here.
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Lady Helen Penarth Charter Boat Sea Fishing South Wales Penarth

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Lady Helen is a 35 ft GRP boat built by Freeward Marine one of the country best known and oldest fishing boat manufacturers...Fully licensed and insured for 10 Anglers
Long way from her home port / under new owners?
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Old 26 May 2013, 15:16   #6
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Well I can assure you gentlmen that vessel would be licenced to carry 50 pax and 2 crew, within 3 mile from mainland, just like her sister vessel, the one pictured towing the Lady Helen to shore, and they are both fully equipped with life rafts for all passengers should the worst happen, however due to the speedy reaction from other boats in the area the rafts weren't necessary and therefore not deployed.
Both vessels are licenced for offshore cruises aswell, then the max of 12 pax applies once past the 3nm from land limit, upto 60nm offshore.
Both vessels are just over 12m with a very wide beam, and have excellent sea handling ability with a very large load line limit, for their size, probably due to the large displacement design and massive solid steel keel, with the engine just forward of midship gives these vessels a perfect balance for the roughest conditions.
I wasn't on the water myself yesterday, otherwise I would've assisted in a shot. my rib is only just under 7m, max 20 people carrying capacity, at least that's what it says in the spec, can't say I'd ever plan to set off with 20 onboard, but if it where an emergency then yes, I would squeeze as many as safely possible on board.
Its just great to hear that all pax were safely rescued by other local boats in the area, saving the discomfort of being rescued from life rafts. Once again well done to those involved I know there was a few ribs in attendance.
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Lady Helen Penarth Charter Boat Sea Fishing South Wales Penarth



Long way from her home port / under new owners?
This vessel would be recoded / licenced and refitted for purpose.
I'm not sure when the current owners acquired this vessel, but its common practice to only allow a max of 10 for fishing charter, it can get very messy with more than ten enthusiastic fishermen usually carrying more than one rod.
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I didnt question the local licensing situation, whatever it may be
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However as I am skippering a 15mx6m catamaran today, coded for 12 plus 3 but with only 6+2 onboard, much bigger than the vessel involved and with a relatively huge deck area , I really wouldnt want to try and manage a distress situation in a boat that size with a lot of folk onboard. Flooding is bad enough and could require the launching of a number of liferafts I suspect, but a fire would scare me even more. Trying to work, with all those folk in a small space, is the stuff that nightmares are made of.
Glad to see they all got off, not a job that I would want to do. No doubt the MAIB will give praise where it is due for the safe resolution of the situation.
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Was a little surprised myself. That size of craft would be limited to 12 PAX and two crew here.
Likewise here. The bigger of the two boats owned by the company I used to work for was downrated from 20 to 12 pax a few years ago. Seems slightly ridiculous that a boat 7ft shorter is OK with 48, how do MCA work that out? Our 45 metre inter-island ferry here is only licenced to carry 30 for fair weather daytime operations!

No suggestion the owners were not fully licenced and in compliance, but the different standards that are applied seem a bit daft.

Anyway, good that it turned out OK and loads of people were about to help, which is the main thing.
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I was on the Dale Princess today for a jaunt to Skomer and can confirm that with 50 passengers on board it is pretty snug!

However it's only a short run out to the island and they only go in good conditions. As far as I know they have a good safety record and managed to cross deck all the passengers last week without incident.
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Nice pic John, hope you had a nice day on the Island.
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Excellent thanks! Couldn't have had better conditions
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Old 29 May 2013, 00:13   #13
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Best time of year to visit aswell, with all the Bluebells and breading birds in abundance, and all the rabbits of course, which apparently were introduced and farmed during the 13th Century, the Greater black backs and puffins love them, many a rabbit have been evicted by Puffins looking for the ideal home. Its great to hear you enjoyed Skomer, and I hope you enjoy the rest of your visit.
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