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Old 27 September 2012, 23:42   #1
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Sinking Narrow Boat on the Thames

PLA report here - http://www.pla.co.uk/pdfs/maritime/S..._Sept_2012.pdf

Scary how fast it sank!

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Old 28 September 2012, 00:06   #2
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Sounds like it was scrap to start with if it needed overplating
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Old 28 September 2012, 06:34   #3
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Even on a narrow boat I wouldn't have had the engine room air intake that close to the water line.
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Old 28 September 2012, 11:15   #4
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Even on a narrow boat I wouldn't have had the engine room air intake that close to the water line.
Quite a "special" location that wasn't it!

On some other forums they are saying the conditions were as a result of the Rib and class V passenger vessel operators on the Thames.

Bottom line is they knew what the conditions on the Thames was like and they still put to "sea". As far as I am concerned their boat was unsuitable for the expected conditions.

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Old 28 September 2012, 12:03   #5
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Many such boats run 5 tons or more of concrete in the bottom.. Not really carring the weight in the dynamic position of a sailing yacht. Thank god they did not have young children on board. I am sure the dog would of swam ashore waking its tail...
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As far as I am concerned their boat was unsuitable for the expected conditions.
I don't think it was even suitable for canals, the half wit who put the intake there wants a good slap!
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Old 28 September 2012, 13:39   #7
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I don't think it was even suitable for canals, the half wit who put the intake there wants a good slap!
Yep, not really anything to do with the Thames conditions,
Its not really an air vent if its below the waterline with 3 people aboard
it would have sank in a swimming pool!!
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Had a Narrow boat for many years and never saw a vent that close to the water line.
However, the construction of narrow boats is still a "cottage" industry and standards can vary
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Surprising how dangerous and fast they can sink , I live alongside the Leeds& Liverppol canal though there seems to be stringent rules on plate size in construction ect most never seem to have any proper bulkheads should flooding present itself .

Going back s few years one sank in a lock near Gargrave after getting the bow fender ( fastened with chain )caught up on the gate sill causing a hook up with the lowering of the water level the boat position tilted and water just ran through the boat trapping and drowning 3 or 4 persons .

Only last year a narrow boat got a drenching when the owner opened s sluce gate and unbeknown to him the boats bow drifted under the cascade of water filling the living space with a few inches of water through the open front door
his wife was supposed to be keeping the bow away from the gate with use of forward reverse .
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Old 28 September 2012, 17:12   #10
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Surprising how dangerous and fast they can sink , I live alongside the Leeds& Liverppol canal though there seems to be stringent rules on plate size in construction ect most never seem to have any proper bulkheads should flooding present itself .

Going back s few years one sank in a lock near Gargrave after getting the bow fender ( fastened with chain )caught up on the gate sill causing a hook up with the lowering of the water level the boat position tilted and water just ran through the boat trapping and drowning 3 or 4 persons .

Only last year a narrow boat got a drenching when the owner opened s sluce gate and unbeknown to him the boats bow drifted under the cascade of water filling the living space with a few inches of water through the open front door
his wife was supposed to be keeping the bow away from the gate with use of forward reverse .

I remember as a kid on narrow boat holidays my aunt and uncle used to warn us of this on every single lock! i though nothing of it until i saw it happen to a boat next to us in the lock! very scary and luckly, it had a good outcome!!

the placing of that vent is just wrong on every level. how can someone with even half a brain think its acceptable!!??
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That's not an air intake its a water intake!!

Can't fathom why they put it that low in the first place either
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