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27 September 2012, 23:42
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Country: UK - England
Town: London/Oxford
Make: Ribcrafts
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150hp/2x115hp
MMSI: 235090215
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Posts: 2,250
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Sinking Narrow Boat on the Thames
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28 September 2012, 00:06
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wakefield
Boat name: Bouncer
Make: Redbay Stormforce
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2x Honda 100 Hp
MMSI: 235025718
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,177
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Sounds like it was scrap to start with if it needed overplating
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28 September 2012, 06:34
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Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,217
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Even on a narrow boat I wouldn't have had the engine room air intake that close to the water line.
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28 September 2012, 11:15
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Country: UK - England
Town: London/Oxford
Make: Ribcrafts
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150hp/2x115hp
MMSI: 235090215
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Posts: 2,250
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chewy
Even on a narrow boat I wouldn't have had the engine room air intake that close to the water line.
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Quite a "special" location that wasn't it!
On some other forums they are saying the conditions were as a result of the Rib and class V passenger vessel operators on the Thames.
Bottom line is they knew what the conditions on the Thames was like and they still put to "sea". As far as I am concerned their boat was unsuitable for the expected conditions.
Chris
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28 September 2012, 12:03
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: macclessfield
Boat name: Reach Out
Make: Quicksilver
Length: 4m +
Engine: 30hp Tohatsu EFI
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 301
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Many such boats run 5 tons or more of concrete in the bottom.. Not really carring the weight in the dynamic position of a sailing yacht. Thank god they did not have young children on board. I am sure the dog would of swam ashore waking its tail...
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28 September 2012, 12:15
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Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,217
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CJL
As far as I am concerned their boat was unsuitable for the expected conditions.
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I don't think it was even suitable for canals, the half wit who put the intake there wants a good slap!
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28 September 2012, 13:39
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: Here
Boat name: doggypaddle
Make: Avon 5.4 Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: yamaha 80
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,107
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chewy
I don't think it was even suitable for canals, the half wit who put the intake there wants a good slap!
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Yep, not really anything to do with the Thames conditions,
Its not really an air vent if its below the waterline with 3 people aboard
it would have sank in a swimming pool!!
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28 September 2012, 13:55
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Hamble
Boat name: Worth the wait
Make: Parker
Length: 7m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,446
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Had a Narrow boat for many years and never saw a vent that close to the water line.
However, the construction of narrow boats is still a "cottage" industry and standards can vary
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28 September 2012, 14:47
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: yorkshire
Boat name: little vicky
Make: avon ex RNLI
Length: 3m +
Engine: tohatsu
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,310
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Surprising how dangerous and fast they can sink , I live alongside the Leeds& Liverppol canal though there seems to be stringent rules on plate size in construction ect most never seem to have any proper bulkheads should flooding present itself .
Going back s few years one sank in a lock near Gargrave after getting the bow fender ( fastened with chain )caught up on the gate sill causing a hook up with the lowering of the water level the boat position tilted and water just ran through the boat trapping and drowning 3 or 4 persons .
Only last year a narrow boat got a drenching when the owner opened s sluce gate and unbeknown to him the boats bow drifted under the cascade of water filling the living space with a few inches of water through the open front door
his wife was supposed to be keeping the bow away from the gate with use of forward reverse .
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28 September 2012, 17:12
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: New Forest
Boat name: Charlie Brown
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: 275 Verado
MMSI: 235069179
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,082
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m chappelow
Surprising how dangerous and fast they can sink , I live alongside the Leeds& Liverppol canal though there seems to be stringent rules on plate size in construction ect most never seem to have any proper bulkheads should flooding present itself .
Going back s few years one sank in a lock near Gargrave after getting the bow fender ( fastened with chain )caught up on the gate sill causing a hook up with the lowering of the water level the boat position tilted and water just ran through the boat trapping and drowning 3 or 4 persons .
Only last year a narrow boat got a drenching when the owner opened s sluce gate and unbeknown to him the boats bow drifted under the cascade of water filling the living space with a few inches of water through the open front door
his wife was supposed to be keeping the bow away from the gate with use of forward reverse .
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I remember as a kid on narrow boat holidays my aunt and uncle used to warn us of this on every single lock! i though nothing of it until i saw it happen to a boat next to us in the lock! very scary and luckly, it had a good outcome!!
the placing of that vent is just wrong on every level. how can someone with even half a brain think its acceptable!!??
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28 September 2012, 19:10
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Seattle
Boat name: Water Dog
Make: Polaris
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 60hp
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,152
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That's not an air intake its a water intake!!
Can't fathom why they put it that low in the first place either
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