Suffering

Jono · 20 June 2005, 16:21

Bad mood?

Me?

Oh yes……

I’ve slowly come to realise what a self-centred, self obsessed, patronising, interfering, moaning bunch of tossers the human race has become…and I include myself in that comment. Look at some of the complete drivel that has been posted on this board in the last few days. People of little or no life experience lecturing about “safety”. People whinging about the cost of fuel. People completely disregarding other people’s enjoyment of life. People just talking utter bollox about some inconsequential minutia….. Damn! Have we all lost sight of the “big picture”? Who, on this board, cannot claim to be “relatively” well off? That includes the “student” population on here, after all I ain’t seen one on here who is starving, have you? Why do we all moan so? Why do we all adopt the sanctimonious “holier than thou” attitude? Buggered if I know…….
Last week, whilst enjoying my good fortune and touring areas of Europe not so well visited by “tourists” I came upon a very modest memorial in the mountains for a concentration camp I had never heard of. I suddenly realised how pathetic my moaning was in face of the unbelievable suffering meted out on innocent people. I never appreciated quite how many of these camps existed, nor how many people suffered in them. Makes you think though, doesn’t it…….?

TQBoater · 20 June 2005, 16:26

Human race or just us in the UK?

Phil Davies · 20 June 2005, 16:58

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Originally Posted by Jono

Bad mood?

Me?

Oh yes……

I’ve slowly come to realise what a self-centred, self obsessed, patronising, interfering, moaning bunch of tossers the human race has become…and I include myself in that comment.

Crap holiday then, Jono?

ps where exactly was the concentration camp? Unusual to find one in the mountains.

Scary Des · 20 June 2005, 17:06

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Originally Posted by Jono

....I’ve slowly come to realise what a self-centred, self obsessed, patronising, interfering, moaning bunch of tossers the human race has become…....

What took you so long

there is nothing you can do about it so you might as well enjoy it

anyway it is being like this that keeps me (and others) so cheerful

Des

Nick Hearne · 20 June 2005, 17:07

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Originally Posted by Phil Davies

Crap holiday then, Jono?

ps where exactly was the concentration camp? Unusual to find one in the mountains.

Miserable sod, reckon he must have been staying at a concentration camp

Jono · 20 June 2005, 17:12

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Originally Posted by Phil Davies

Crap holiday then, Jono?

ps where exactly was the concentration camp? Unusual to find one in the mountains.

Absolutely outstanding holiday, believe me..... 'bike tour on my GS... fan-bloody-tastic...... scenery, roads, people... hotels that gave "special price" for arriving by 'bike.. Weather from Snow to 32 degrees.. unbelievable!

The camp was on the border between Austria and Slovenia (as is now) and was positioned to supply labour to dig the tunnel that we passed through in a place called Podljubelj sometimes known as Loibl a sub camp of Mauthausen. A grim reminder of mans’ inhumanity.

eupa · 20 June 2005, 17:12

Nice one Jono-y own sentiments exactly...
Are you becoming a "born again Christian" - I knew I had a friend somewhere..

How about this then.?

I know nothing about anything
I am deceitful
I am pompeous
I am a big bore
I hate evertbody
I am jealous
I have no patience

But apart from all that ... quite a decent persom.

Jonathan

Jono · 20 June 2005, 17:14

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Originally Posted by Nick Hearne

Miserable sod, reckon he must have been staying at a concentration camp

Yeah.. I used to find comments like that amusing too... funny old world, eh?

Jono · 20 June 2005, 17:16

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Originally Posted by eupa

.... "born again Christian" -

That would be about as far off the mark as you can get.... you can keep religion for yourself.

eupa · 20 June 2005, 17:25

Damn! Have we all lost sight of the “big picture

Then, I would sure like to know then "what is the big picture" you miserable old sod...

Jonathan

Jono · 20 June 2005, 17:33

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Originally Posted by eupa

Damn! Have we all lost sight of the “big picture

Then, I would sure like to know then "what is the big picture" you miserable old sod...

Jonathan

Err...ok... how about how well off we are compared to some poor feckas.... or how about how unbelievably cruel man can be....or how about how insignificant we all are in comparison to nature... or how about…….. Awww, feck it…. Get your own big picture……

eupa · 20 June 2005, 17:38

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Originally Posted by Jono

Err...ok... how about how well off we are compared to some poor feckas.... or how about how unbelievably cruel man can be....or how about how insignificant we all are in comparison to nature... or how about…….. Awww, feck it…. Get your own big picture……

Then why dont YOU do something about it.... Come with me to the Sudan in September,.. Then I WILL SHOW YOU what happens when ........

Jonathan

Jono · 20 June 2005, 17:45

Thanks for the offer.... but as I've visited an awful lot of the Worlds "Hell-holes" in my time, I think I'll pass on this offer, if you don't mind?

Please don't think that I have any inclination towards the likes of Bob Geldoff-esque solutions... I don't believe that we can "cure the World's ills" in this or any similar manner.... the only solution I can think of is for the human race to die out and that's a bit extreme....

jwalker · 20 June 2005, 18:05

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.... the only solution I can think of is for the human race to die out and that's a bit extreme....

Na, I'd go along with that.

Phil Davies · 20 June 2005, 19:33

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Originally Posted by Jono

Thanks for the offer.... but as I've visited an awful lot of the Worlds "Hell-holes" in my time, I think I'll pass on this offer, if you don't mind?

Bet you ain't been to Holyhead on a Saturday night, though

eupa · 20 June 2005, 21:59

don't believe that we can "cure the World's ills" in this or any similar manner

Yes we can. The reason the world is in such a state is that man is denying the existance of Jesus Christ. you can scoff at me, ridicule me , abuse me- but until mankind comes To Jesus- the world is going to continue down an ever spiral descent into oblivion. I am not talking about Bob Geldorf, I am not talking about giving millions to the tseumi victims - its all good but doesnt solve the basic problem. Did you ever think along those lines??

Jonathan

jwalker · 21 June 2005, 00:40

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Originally Posted by eupa

Did you ever think along those lines??

Yeh, years ago, but rejected it as pish. If God exists, he's a bastud.

Jono · 21 June 2005, 07:32

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Originally Posted by jwalker

.. If God exists, he's a bastud.

JW? Yer goin' straight to Hell for that one....

Rogue Wave · 21 June 2005, 07:35

I'll be going with him.!

Jono · 21 June 2005, 07:39

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I'll be going with him.!

No, Rogue... I very much doubt that. Despite not agreeing with some of your "ideas" and the like, you are probably the most affable bloke I've ever met.....despite being in the marine trade...