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Old 02 October 2012, 21:29   #61
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Drill drain pipe with 2 holes 1" appart roughly 1/3rd way up pole.

B&Q Builders Bucket (99p) drill hole in bottom push pole to 1/3rd way.

Put split pin through each hole (1 either side of bucket) - so pole now attached to bucket.

Attach rope to a length of scrap metal bar roughly the diameter of bucket - with bitter end through bottom of the bucket. (Bitter end will attach to the lobby pot)

Fill bucket with expanding builders foam (£5.00).

Attach a metre or two of old anchor chain to the bottom of the pole as a weight.
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Old 02 October 2012, 21:31   #62
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Will it dissolve in the salt water?
Nope its disolves expanded polystyrene!

BUT - will the styrene start to crumble in a blow?
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Will it dissolve in the salt water?
Do it, it's cool. It makes the polystyrene disappear before your very eyes. Completely and totally disappear. If you have a block big enough you can make all sorts of caves and tunnels with a few drops of Airfix cement. Very cool.
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You can start to see why lobster folk tie their pots to empty plastic oil containers......
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You can start to see why lobster folk tie their pots to empty plastic oil containers......
if only ! 2 litre milk bottles here sometimes ...

one person told me they attached hooks to the rope - about 3 foot down, don't know if they caught any fish!
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The hooks aint to catch fish, the are to stop people nicking their catch / pot
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that thought never crossed my mind
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Will fibreglass be ok on polystyrene ?
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Will fibreglass be ok on polystyrene ?
gaffa tape - you are a sea rider owner you must have few boxes!

Encase it with it!
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Will fibreglass be ok on polystyrene ?
I assume you mean 'resin'. And what do you mean by "OK"? A small amount of polystyrene cement, or resin probably be OK - but it will dissolve the polysteyrene - but so long as you use a small amount it should be fine. But you are probably making life too complex! Would some pipe-lagging (or even better a big of 'pool noodle' off-cut) give you enough flotation? Long enough in water it will start to soak up moisture - but 48 hrs at a time it will probably be fine?
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How can you tell if the chickens were straight?
The wingtips don't flop around.

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So my solution is to use sinking line for about three to five meters (from buoy down) depending upon tide and depth of pot and have the rest floating, it will keep it off the bottom.
Sound good?
Personally, I'd go the other way around. 1/3 depth floating line, attached to the pot, the rest sinking. The floating lie should give enough buoyancy to keep the rest off the pot at least (strung out down-current), and the longer sinking length will make sure it stays under and out of props.

For crabbing, I'm setting in about 230 to 250 feet; I have 300' of leaded line (sinking.) Each pot (the square mesh pots; called Danielson's over here) has 8 to 10 lb of lead zip-tied in the bottom. Still had one walk (or get stolen; not sure which.)

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Is there a requirement that you have a flag?

I use two 5"x11" bullet floats about 3 feet apart. The line between them gives me a target for the boat hook to grab. Not as visible as a flag, but a lot less bulky when the rig's in the boat.

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On the flag subject if you find that the flag itselfs a bit too heavy or the wind blows the bouy over on its side long strips of tape or ribbon are a good substitute ,
they help cut down the on the wind resistance but still gives about as much visual as a full flag & if there's not much wind they will flutter in lighter wind than a full flag
Ideal is something like the inch wide fluorescent / day glow type tape that they used to tie around roadworks .
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According to this document you should have a dan buoy flying a black flag along side the pot buoy, as a ribber I feel I would be a bit of a hypocrite if I didn't use one.

http://www.mnwfa.co.uk/wp-content/up.../fishgear1.pdf

It's all finished now and it's been tested in a wheely bin and correctly weighted by the use of two thirds of an engineering brick (thanks Nos for the idea)! And it also has the recommended reflective tape on the pole

The whole thing didn't cost a thing as it was made by stuff I already had.

I have found a load of anchor rope and a much larger orange buoy from one of my old seariders, so I think we're all set

Apart from the bait that is Although I have made a bait bag

But for future reference you can buy a complete flag from here Although they don't post

(about half way down the page)

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The fishermen on the Scottish West coast use salted mackerel for lobster bait, and use fresh bait for crab...

If you are successful and catch one, watch out for the claws...especially the "crusher" - the big claw when you're removing it from the pot!, and hold them on the hard shell part of the body...not the tail, as that tends to nip the fingers as they flap about!...

15 minutes in a pan of boiling water....and they are ready to eat...
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15 minutes in a pan of boiling water....and they are ready to eat...
Dont forget to kill the lobster before dropping it in the hot water !!

A sharp knitting needle entry just back of the neck, and wiggle it around.
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What about Scallops as bait? I know someone with a few in their freezer
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If you are successful and catch one, watch out for the claws...especially the "crusher" - the big claw when you're removing it from the pot!, and hold them on the hard shell part of the body...not the tail, as that tends to nip the fingers as they flap about!...
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Dont forget to kill the lobster before dropping it in the hot water !!

A sharp knitting needle entry just back of the neck, and wiggle it around.
I might get AJ to do this bit After all I made the flag!
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