Uk+new rib+corona=??

Karl Oskar · 18 March 2021, 15:40

Hi,
First time on this forum, so please have patience..

To my issue.

I am in Sweden, buying a new rib in the UK.

Plan is to go and get it first week of may, with my own car and trailer.

Only problem i know for now, that could be an issue is the corona.

Today i am thinking like this;

Bring a fresh negative test and a complete ”passanger locator form”.

Get off the ferry at 6:30, drive 2 hours, load the boat at the factory, drive 2 hours back to ferry and wait for the next one for leaving UK.

I plan so i dont need any stops for food or fuel, and can arrange for meeting no one at the factory in person. The closest might be a guy in a forklifter.

Can someone please give me some hints if its realistic and mayby add some good ideas?

Iankristy · 18 March 2021, 17:06

My understanding is that currently( this of course may change at any point) if you enter uk from abroad you need to quarantine for 10 days on arrival. Either independently or in the govt hire scheme from certain countries. If it’s for commercial purposes their may be exceptions but if not it may be hard to satisfy customs. For example your passenger location form will say give what address? Not saying don’t just saying keep an eye on the rules and maybe want to ask HM customs. That’s my understanding anyway.

Karl Oskar · 18 March 2021, 17:36

Thanks for your thoughts.

On the passanger location form i want to write the ferry location.

I will have booked prepaid ferrytickets.

Its a private journey, but mayby its possible to get the right documents and make

it ”commercial”.

GuyC · 18 March 2021, 17:55

Could you have it delivered to the ferry on the UK side and then pick it up from the ferry on the other side?

Orwell boy · 18 March 2021, 18:11

Are you coming into Felixstowe or Harwich ports ?,where are you heading for collection ?, i am very close to felixstowe . maybe it could be dropped off at the dock for you or loaded on the ferry ,insurance maybe an issue

Karl Oskar · 18 March 2021, 18:35

Thanks again,

Thing is that i have the trailer here with me in Sweden.

Boat weight is about 2000kg, so a crane is needed for a potential switch.

(I added liftingpoints) 😅

Or water with a ramp.

Otherwise it was a good idea.

Harwich, and then north of London, googlemaps says 1:50.

I think my insurance will be fine. Its an all year, almost all world, on water or on trailer. But if a special situation occurs i will doublecheck ofcourse.

Maximus · 18 March 2021, 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuyC

Could you have it delivered to the ferry on the UK side and then pick it up from the ferry on the other side?

That was my thinking....seems the most logical and easiest solution.
You say "New"......I would have thought if it's direct from the maker it would be easy to arrange.Have you asked??

Karl Oskar · 18 March 2021, 21:58

Trailer in Sweden, boat in UK. Where do they connect that way, and how do you mean?

jakew009 · 18 March 2021, 22:24

Just say it’s for business and there’s no restrictions at all.

You don’t need any different forms. Just say you are collecting stock.

GuyC · 18 March 2021, 22:32

It's all money but you could use a boat transport company to put the boat on a trailer, take it to Harwich, put th trailer on the ferry. You would then unload at your end and return the trailer.

You could do it by hiring a trailer and finding someone to tow it but it would just become hard work and I'm not sure how much money you would save.

I don't have any links with them but you could try the people below.

Boat Transporters - Jones Boatyard

Iankristy · 18 March 2021, 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl Oskar

Thanks for your thoughts.

On the passanger location form i want to write the ferry location.

I will have booked prepaid ferrytickets.

Its a private journey, but mayby its possible to get the right documents and make

it ”commercial”.

The passenger locator form shows where you are going to quarantine. I’m not sure the ferry port address will suffice. Sit tight much will change between now and then I’m sure!

Karl Oskar · 19 March 2021, 07:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakew009

Just say it’s for business and there’s no restrictions at all.

You don’t need any different forms. Just say you are collecting stock.

Yes, but if a go that way i will arrange the paperwork from an actual transportcompany. When i am that far i really dont need any surprises. 😅

Karl Oskar · 19 March 2021, 07:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuyC

It's all money but you could use a boat transport company to put the boat on a trailer, take it to Harwich, put th trailer on the ferry. You would then unload at your end and return the trailer.

You could do it by hiring a trailer and finding someone to tow it but it would just become hard work and I'm not sure how much money you would save.

I don't have any links with them but you could try the people below.

Boat Transporters - Jones Boatyard

Thanks for the link.

That is definitely an option, but only in worst case.

If we come to that, mayby the factory can help me in some way similar to your idea.

Karl Oskar · 19 March 2021, 07:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iankristy

The passenger locator form shows where you are going to quarantine. I’m not sure the ferry port address will suffice. Sit tight much will change between now and then I’m sure!

That is true, still hope is my best friend.

If all this turns in the right direction, the whole thing will be a walk in the park.

Karl Oskar · 03 April 2021, 19:26

Hello again,

Any new indications that might effect my plan in any direction?

Here in Sweden we should be allowed to leave outside EU after the 15 april.

That is a small step in the right direction anyway.

jakew009 · 03 April 2021, 20:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl Oskar

Hello again,

Any new indications that might effect my plan in any direction?

Here in Sweden we should be allowed to leave outside EU after the 15 april.

That is a small step in the right direction anyway.

Not really any change at all from your perspective.

Your best (only?) bet is to pretend you are a commercial delivery driver collecting business goods and you will have no problem.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...goods-vehicles

Karl Oskar · 03 April 2021, 20:43

Link is very useful, thanks.

Might be the only info i need.. ��

jakew009 · 03 April 2021, 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl Oskar

Link is very useful, thanks.

Might be the only info i need.. ��

The only thing you need to be careful of is that to tow a trailer commercially in the UK you should be using a tachograph and have an operators license.

But hopefully borderforce don’t know those rules

Karl Oskar · 03 April 2021, 21:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakew009

The only thing you need to be careful of is that to tow a trailer commercially in the UK you should be using a tachograph and have an operators license.

But hopefully borderforce don’t know those rules

Do theese rules apply even to transports from other countries?

Can i in any way come closer to the ”thruth” here?

Where do i find more info about this?

A tachograph, is that a time or distance counter?

Many questions i know, but i really want to be prepaired before i go.

I promise to share my trip and photos when i am home.

jakew009 · 03 April 2021, 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl Oskar

Do theese rules apply even to transports from other countries?

Can i in any way come closer to the ”thruth” here?

Where do i find more info about this?

A tachograph, is that a time or distance counter?

Many questions i know, but i really want to be prepaired before i go.

I promise to share my trip and photos when i am home.

In the UK basically any vehicle towing commercially has to have a tachgraph the same as a heavy goods vehicle. To have a tachograph you have to have an operators license.

As to what happens to an operator from another country - I have no idea but I imagine the rules are similar EU wide.

I think you are basically going to have to either ‘wing’ it and hope you get away without any questions, or pay someone to do it for you.