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Old 15 July 2009, 16:19   #1
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Very sad

If you've ever seen a TV show like Beach Patrol, in which they chronicle Lifeguards in the same manner as the COPS TV show, you may have seen them running a Junior Lifeguard program in which kids get basic training in Lifeguarding duties. Always seemed like a great idea both for the agency and the kids. However, I just saw this story:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...ard-death.html

An 11 year old girl taking part in the Junior Lifeguard Program was prop-struck, and died of her injuries.

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Old 15 July 2009, 16:53   #2
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thats a really sad story ,the RNLI lifeguards in the uk ran an education thing a while back where they took teenagers from inland inner city backgrounds for a few weeeks and did something along the same lines called inner city surf ,thankfully no one was ever killed ,though i dont think we would ever drop people off of a moving boat nowadays ,even with lifeboat crew its now frowned upon .mart
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Local life guards took a girl out on the RIB or SIB to show off. Sadly she fell off the back and went through the prop.

Very sad when the young die like this.
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terrible - as was the bloody advert at the start of the video - I don't know if they are random but the one I saw was advertising training and said it would change your life and make things so much better - very unfortunate choice given the sad story - the woman in the ad was constantly grinning - not what you expect considering what the news story was about!!!
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Such a shame, no need to be jumping off moving boats to rescue people anyway.
I know prop guards knock a couple of knots off your top speed but it still seems such a worthwhile addition given the use of the boats.

I don't know why the RNLI don't fit them to ILB's?
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It wasn't jumping off that did it - they circled back.
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The fact they were turning back was because part of the exercise was to jump off a moving boat.
I'll re-phrase what I said, no need to put people in the water without good cause.
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Tragic. My daughter is 11, I can't imagine what her family are going through.
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Such a shame, no need to be jumping off moving boats to rescue people anyway.
I know prop guards knock a couple of knots off your top speed but it still seems such a worthwhile addition given the use of the boats.

I don't know why the RNLI don't fit them to ILB's?
hi chewy ,i have seen a couple of RNLI arancias used by the flood rescue team using prop guards ,but yes i would have thought they would have been used more.
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hi chewy ,i have seen a couple of RNLI arancias used by the flood rescue team using prop guards ,but yes i would have thought they would have been used more.
None of the ILB's ie, D-class's or Atlantics have them fitted though?
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Tragic. My daughter is 11, I can't imagine what her family are going through.
Same here mate, doesn't bare thinking about
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This is a horrible accident caused by a deadly mix of incompetence and stupidity. If this outfit is supposed to have any expertise with MOB recovery, one would think that they would have outfitted their boats with either jet outboards, or durajet outboards (like all US navy SIBs use) or at the very least prop guards. Doing any kind of recovery exercises with open props is completely inexcusable.
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This is a horrible accident caused by a deadly mix of incompetence and stupidity. If this outfit is supposed to have any expertise with MOB recovery, one would think that they would have outfitted their boats with either jet outboards, or durajet outboards (like all US navy SIBs use) or at the very least prop guards. Doing any kind of recovery exercises with open props is completely inexcusable.
Its fine if you know what your doing, we do recovery all the time but make sure you can always see the casualty and put the engines in neutral well before reaching the casualty.

As far as I'm aware no one has been injured during a recovery by the RNLI. People have by been flung out of the boat during turns.
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