Whaling in Iceland

bogib · 16 July 2005, 15:15

Jón Baldur my son took this picture the other night of the sunset at Reykjavik old harbour and if you look carefully you will notice 2 ships out of four marked with big H, these are the old whaling ships powered by steam engines and hopefully they will be up and running catching whales next year.

Bogi

Wayne Rogers · 16 July 2005, 17:53

Why not leave the two steam ships in the harbour and let the whales live?

jwalker · 16 July 2005, 17:55

Agreed.

Kernow Buoy · 16 July 2005, 18:27

I thought the world had moved on, from steam ships and whaling!

bogib · 16 July 2005, 18:59

They are very well maintained painted regularly (every 3-4 year) so they can go whaling within short notice and whale meat taste even better than beef and rheindeer so hopefully we can have whale meat sooner than later.

Bogi

codprawn · 16 July 2005, 22:33

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Originally Posted by bogib

They are very well maintained painted regularly (every 3-4 year) so they can go whaling within short notice and whale meat taste even better than beef and rheindeer so hopefully we can have whale meat sooner than later.

Bogi

Apparently human meat is even nicer - are you going to start eating that as well?????????????

bogib · 16 July 2005, 22:47

Strange comparison Codprawn surely I can tell you Cod I don´t eat as loaded with worms

and we mainly export Cod to UK and USA and Prawn as well is not human food to my opinion.

Bogi

prairie tuber · 16 July 2005, 23:34

I thought we moved on from the 70's greenpeacer era.

What is wrong with whaling if it is done within internationally agreed upon standards which establish quotas to ensure that the populations of the hunted species are stable & not endangered?

If any of you eat animal meat, who are you to judge someone else's choice animal meat if it is legally obtained?

Bogib - I'd like my humpback medium rare with some bottlenose on the side.

Beluga; The other white meat.

bogib · 17 July 2005, 00:16

prairie tuber thanks for your support, those southerness must pay us a visit and try out our great foods and to experiance 24 hours of daylight during our short summer that brights everything up.

Bogi

prairie tuber · 17 July 2005, 02:39

Bogib,

You'll have to make your way down to Gimli, Manitoba one year for Islendingadagurinn

codprawn · 17 July 2005, 03:24

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Originally Posted by prairie tuber

I thought we moved on from the 70's greenpeacer era.

What is wrong with whaling if it is done within internationally agreed upon standards which establish quotas to ensure that the populations of the hunted species are stable & not endangered?

If any of you eat animal meat, who are you to judge someone else's choice animal meat if it is legally obtained?

Bogib - I'd like my humpback medium rare with some bottlenose on the side.

Beluga; The other white meat.

I detest Greenpeace with a passion but I don't like to see something as majestic as a whale killed............

Also Whales are still at risk!!!

prairie tuber · 17 July 2005, 03:53

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Originally Posted by codprawn

I detest Greenpeace with a passion but I don't like to see something as majestic as a whale killed............

Also Whales are still at risk!!!

Many whale species are, but not all - don't shoot the species that are at risk. Besides, the approximately 1200 whales taken each year by the whaling nations (Iceland, Japan & Norway), pales in comparison to the estimated 300,000 whales, dolphins porpoises killed each year from bycatch from commercial fishing operations.

http://www.panda.org/news_facts/news...m?uNewsID=7462 .

jwalker · 17 July 2005, 11:08

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Originally Posted by prairie tuber

... Besides, the approximately 1200 whales taken each year by the whaling nations (Iceland, Japan & Norway), pales in comparison to the estimated 300,000 whales, dolphins porpoises killed each year from bycatch from commercial fishing operations.

So you're justifying something bad by telling us how much worse something else is. Cool reasoning.

bogib · 17 July 2005, 12:15

I have been several time on my way to Gimli my grand parents have been there number of times same goes to my parents in law so we do have some relatives over there. But even I do travel quite often to Minneapolis in Minnesota and according to maps distance to Winnipeg is not that great as I normally drive to Illinois, Indiana and Kentucky so I must take a northern route next time as well.

Bogi

prairie tuber · 17 July 2005, 14:28

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So you're justifying something bad by telling us how much worse something else is. Cool reasoning.

Please explain to me how harvesting and using an animal is bad if it is done within sustainable levels and done legally.

The current catch levels through active whaling are sustainable, however the bycatch kill levels likley are not. Additionally, the cetaceans killed from fishing nets do not get used, but are wasted. If you are truly concerned about the continued survival and ethical treatment of whales and are educated about the facts, you should be concerned about commercial fishing practices.

If someone consumes commercially obtained marine fish, yet condemns the legal acquisition and/or consumption of whale meat (& whale byproducts), they are being hypocritical.

jwalker · 17 July 2005, 14:34

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Originally Posted by prairie tuber

... you should be concerned about commercial fishing practices.

What makes you think I'm not?

Whether it's lawful has nothing to do with it.

prairie tuber · 17 July 2005, 14:44

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Originally Posted by jwalker

What makes you think I'm not?

Whether it's lawful has nothing to do with it.

Perhaps you are concerned about commercial fishing practices, however I would guess that the majority of people who consider eating whale meat morally repulsive have no qualms about eating commmercially obtained marine fish.

bogib · 17 July 2005, 17:05

Here are some more close up pics of the whaling ship fleet

Bogi

Action Man · 17 July 2005, 17:51

nice pictures bogi

Kernow Buoy · 17 July 2005, 18:55

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Please explain to me how harvesting and using an animal is bad if it is done within sustainable levels and done legally.

Hi prairie tuber
I for one don't have a problem with that at all, provided the 'harvesting' is done compassionately. The main problem with whaling is that your well, whaling! they were here millions of years before us (hopefully will be here millions of years after us too!) they are earth's largest creature and you must admit if you were out in your rib and saw one you'd just have to say 'wow!'
we don't need to eat them, can't we just leave something alone for once?
About the commercial fishing methods, your dead right, thousands of dolphins around my coast are being killed and thrown away as waste.
regards
Kernow