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Old 20 December 2005, 22:19   #21
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Anyway, I'd like a 911 please. If that motor is in bad taste, where does that put the entire production of Ford and General Motors? (including all their half breed offspring)
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Old 20 December 2005, 22:31   #22
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Anyway, I'd like a 911 please. If that motor is in bad taste, where does that put the entire production of Ford and General Motors? (including all their half breed offspring)
Yes indeed - it is a bizarre quirk of human nature that despite being able to discern vulgarity in others we seem immune to seeing it in ourselves...
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Not really - there's no excuse for tawdry public displays of outrageous bad taste - but then again if you really do drive a 911 you'd know all about that.
Mmm, interesting concept that driving a german sports car is a tawdry public display of outrageous bad taste; each to their own I suppose. I'd prefer to call it having a keen interest in cars and owning the one that meets my needs, just like the selection and ownership of a given brand of RIB. I just find it interesting how quick people are to judge others and I guess you've confirmed how prevalent this is yet again.
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Anyway, I'd like a 911 please. If that motor is in bad taste, where does that put the entire production of Ford and General Motors? (including all their half breed offspring)
I'm suddenly thinking Chrysler PT Cruiser and Chrysler Crossfire!
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tolerant chap are you nate?
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I just find it interesting how quick people are to judge others and I guess you've confirmed how prevalent this is yet again.
Having sufficient memory to remember that you began the debate might help...
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I didnt start a debate at all nate, as you will see from my two posts. I just asked if you were tolerant, having seen a pretty intolerant post (imho) that you had made with regard to christmas lights.
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Not to mention Barbie, the epitome of taste.
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Sorry - don't know what came over me. I am guilty of inappropriate humour and intolerant outbursts. Thank you both for showing me the error in my understanding.

I'm going to redeem myself by buying a porsche (I really need this car for its mix of practicality and space), getting blinged up, moving to a council house and festooning it with really lovely flashing lights celebrating f*ck knows what but it's Christmas innit, and finding a girl from essex and getting her to go blonde and commando.

Do I also need a bull terrier called Tyson?
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It's mandatory old bean. Arf arf.
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Who has the best Christmas lights.........

Pompey does.
And they are here all year round too.
Most excellent.
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I'd prefer to call it having a keen interest in cars and owning the one that meets my needs,
I think someone has the words NEEDS and WANTS mixed up. A need would be:

It starts
It gets you from a to b at the speed limit
It stops

Plus some specialist ones like:

Its comfortable to drive
Its safe


WANTS are:

Speed
Design
Colour
etc
etc

I fail to see how anyone would NEED a 911 unless you're so insecure about yourself you NEED to try to make yourself look good?

I am not saying a 911 isnt a nice car at that i wouldn't drive one but i dont NEED one.

My current runabout is a Suzuki SJ413 that i bought for 300 quid.
I needed a car that started, gets me to the woods, drives around the woods and i dont care if the dog ruins the passenger seat.

Anyway back to the 0-pikey in the flick of a switch..................................

Yea, lets festoon our houses with lights, wasting further energy and natural resources! Global warming, hate snow anyways!
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I think someone has the words NEEDS and WANTS mixed up. A need would be:

It starts
It gets you from a to b at the speed limit
It stops

Plus some specialist ones like:

Its comfortable to drive
Its safe


WANTS are:

Speed
Design
Colour
etc
etc

I fail to see how anyone would NEED a 911 unless you're so insecure about yourself you NEED to try to make yourself look good?

I am not saying a 911 isnt a nice car at that i wouldn't drive one but i dont NEED one.

My current runabout is a Suzuki SJ413 that i bought for 300 quid.
I needed a car that started, gets me to the woods, drives around the woods and i dont care if the dog ruins the passenger seat.

Anyway back to the 0-pikey in the flick of a switch..................................

Yea, lets festoon our houses with lights, wasting further energy and natural resources! Global warming, hate snow anyways!
sorry, imho that is nonsense. My wants are completely different from my needs and the 911 fits into the latter catagory. My wants would be a r/rover for towing the RIB, an aston martin just so I could listen to it and look at it and a caterham for the racetrack. I cant afford this collection so I have a car that meets my needs within my budget. I drive 140 miles every day round trip to work and a great deal of time abroad and these are my needs:

I need it to start every day without fault and be 100% reliable
I need it to be bullet proof in terms of residuals as I dont enjoy losing my shirt to depreciation.
I need it to be able to put a smile on my face every day otherwise the a3/m25 combo would make the journey unbearable
I need it to be able to carry four people at (legal) speed to continental europe regularly

none of these are about being secure / insecure,just buying the best car to suit my needs. If you can think of a car that will do all of the above, I'll happily swap.
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Andy,

You're wrong.

Since I accepted the advice of the Donut lifestyle Guru I haven't looked back (largely because Tyson ate the mirror). Shanelle loves the Porsche (I bought one of the yellow ones), and my new look makes Ali G look maudlin. We get admiring looks down at Lidl, and also from the much more discerning crowd at Aldi, especially now I've got me personalised reg P1KEY. As for practicality - don't worry about dog shit etc. on the seats - they clean up a treat, and I've got seat covers on anyway. A 911's not as good as me old Nissan for dogging - Shanelle suggested using the bonnet but we keep slipping off (this is clearly a design fault as it happens to all the other doggers with 911s we see down the carpark and the solution is to use the huge parcel shelf on the boot). House looks great with the lights, although running them of a "borrowed" generator is a bit noisy, but with the 'leccy cut off what other options were there?

Finally I think global warming's a good thing as it will cut down the heating bills, and I may even save enough cash to buy car insurance.

p.s. love the idea of Pompey having Christmas lights all year round - planning something similar myself!
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total bollox!

Having spent 10yrs in the motor trade identifying needs and wants was fairly important. Your needs are wants. You want a car that you enjoy driving, fair enough. You dont actually need it, you wont die.


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I need it to start every day without fault and be 100% reliable

BUY A HONDA OR A MAZDA? http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/tr...28339010848601

I need it to be bullet proof in terms of residuals as I dont enjoy losing my shirt to depreciation.

SO YOU BLEW 58K??? ON A CAR THAT HAS A STRONG RESIDUAL FAIR ENOUGH. PORSCHE ARE WORTH 53% AFTER 3 YRS YOU HAVE STILL LOST 30ISH K ! THATS A NICE BRACE OF CIVIC TYPE R'S AND STILL LEAVE YOU 43%RES AT THE END OF 3 YRS.

I need it to be able to put a smile on my face every day otherwise the a3/m25 combo would make the journey unbearable
CIVIC TYPE R AGAIN? 200BHP 0-60 IN 6.6....... I'D SMILE! MAZDA RX8?

I need it to be able to carry four people at (legal) speed to continental europe regularly

I'D LOVE TO BE IN THE BACK! WHERE YOU YOU PUT THE BAGS?
NEED A CAR WITH A BOOT.........................TYPE R, RX8??????

none of these are about being secure / insecure,just buying the best car to suit my needs. If you can think of a car that will do all of the above, I'll happily swap.
uM, CIVIC TYPE R RX8?
Now, if i could afford one, hell yea, i would buy one but i wouldnt say i needed it! I'm not even going to slag off Porsches or any other car but if you read your needs, you dont actually need a 911.

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And they are here all year round too.
Most excellent.

Excellent photo!

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Having spent 10yrs in the motor trade identifying needs and wants was fairly important. Your needs are wants. You want a car that you enjoy driving, fair enough. You dont actually need it, you wont die.

dont those last three sentences contradict each other?

10 years in the motor trade doesnt qualify you to know what I need / want / wish for in a motor.

BUY A HONDA OR A MAZDA?

no thanks, no honda or mazda is a pleasant place to spend extended periods of time (imho). The honda type r will make your arse feel like it's been attacked by david furnish and the mazda will have used up enough oil to keep a small country warm by the time you get to france.

I need it to be bullet proof in terms of residuals as I dont enjoy losing my shirt to depreciation.

SO YOU BLEW 58K??? ON A CAR THAT HAS A STRONG RESIDUAL FAIR ENOUGH. PORSCHE ARE WORTH 53% AFTER 3 YRS YOU HAVE STILL LOST 30ISH K ! THATS A NICE BRACE OF CIVIC TYPE R'S AND STILL LEAVE YOU 43%RES AT THE END OF 3 YRS.

nope, I bought the 911 and the cost including maintenance and depreciation over the course of 12 months was approx 6k.

I need it to be able to put a smile on my face every day otherwise the a3/m25 combo would make the journey unbearable

CIVIC TYPE R AGAIN? 200BHP 0-60 IN 6.6....... I'D SMILE! MAZDA RX8?

are you kidding?!

I need it to be able to carry four people at (legal) speed to continental europe regularly

I'D LOVE TO BE IN THE BACK! WHERE YOU YOU PUT THE BAGS?
NEED A CAR WITH A BOOT.........................TYPE R, RX8??????

in the bonnet in the front and the shelf at the back. Plenty of room for four decent sized bags.

none of these are about being secure / insecure,just buying the best car to suit my needs. If you can think of a car that will do all of the above, I'll happily swap.

not that you'd be interested but just p/exed for an RS6 Avant.

Now, if i could afford one, hell yea, i would buy one but i wouldnt say i needed it! I'm not even going to slag off Porsches or any other car but if you read your needs, you dont actually need a 911.
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